LED for the summer

TreeFiddy350

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So I’ve come to the realization that i will probably need to switch to LED once summer time hits. I’m trying to stay ahead and figure out which one I will need.
Right now I’m using a mh/hps 1000w with dimmable from 600-750-1000.
I was wondering which would be a good LED to buy as far as brand and whatnot.
Also, does LED play a bigger impact during veg or flower?
I was hoping to get around 1000w LED, by the way
 

Airwalker16

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So I’ve come to the realization that i will probably need to switch to LED once summer time hits. I’m trying to stay ahead and figure out which one I will need.
Right now I’m using a mh/hps 1000w with dimmable from 600-750-1000.
I was wondering which would be a good LED to buy as far as brand and whatnot.
Also, does LED play a bigger impact during veg or flower?
I was hoping to get around 1000w LED, by the way
What size space
 

TreeFiddy350

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Also, I know there are other threads similar to this, but I also saw there were a lot of pages. I figured i may get a quicker response with a new thread
 

TreeFiddy350

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1000w is overkill for a 4x4. What is your budget? Are you willing to build a light yourself or get a kit to build one? Or do you want a fixture that's ready to go?
Based on your experience, what do you recommend?
I’m going to be growing 6 plants in the 4x4.
I’m willing to make it if it isn’t too hard. I’m not super electrical savvy, but I can def do some research if the price is right. Know what I mean?
I was possibly thinking around 500. No more than 500 USD
 

Airwalker16

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Based on your experience, what do you recommend?
I’m going to be growing 6 plants in the 4x4.
I’m willing to make it if it isn’t too hard. I’m not super electrical savvy, but I can def do some research if the price is right. Know what I mean?
I was possibly thinking around 500. No more than 500 USD
You can get a light from Fotop Or Meiju? From China Alibaba, for less than $400 shipped. It's a good deal 4 boards 550-600w total.
 

Ryante55

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Based on your experience, what do you recommend?
I’m going to be growing 6 plants in the 4x4.
I’m willing to make it if it isn’t too hard. I’m not super electrical savvy, but I can def do some research if the price is right. Know what I mean?
I was possibly thinking around 500. No more than 500 USD
For 500 you have to diy complete fixture is 800-1200. If you bump your budget to like 700 you could get a kit like this https://growerslights.com/products/horticulture-lighting-group-600h-quantum-board-led-kit?variant=8194696151141 these kits are super easy to put together. To stay in your budget a strip build is your best bet but that will take a fair amount of research and building.

Here's a video on building a strip light you could look around and find some cheaper strips vs the PLC but they won't have the reds and you probably wouldn't save much.
 

Rocket Soul

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https://m.alibaba.com/amp/product/60806910436.html

Contact Rita Fang here. She can get you a two board set for like $430.

I would ask for the 4 board set though. Tell her you want to take advantage of the sale for $368 Shipped.
+1 on the Fotop boards, i friggin love them. We got 5 of them over 2x1.1m (about 6,5x3.5 in feet) at about 750w total, the intensity crush the 2x 600 super HPS that used to light that area. And very even spread!
4 boards would be a very tight fit, theyre tbout 3x1 feet in size. 3 is more realistic. But hey why not get 4 and youll find a place for the 4th one in vegg or something. Or sell it to a friend. Shipping is pretty pricey, about 120, so if you can find a use for a 4th one the price per board drops a bit.
If you want a shopping list id suggest:

3-4 Fotop boards in 3000k 80 cri, using samsung lm561c. We tested out both lm301b (superior but more pricey) and lm561c (not bad but less than 2/3rds the price, and the difference per board was minimal, but having 50% more diodes, and thus running the chips a fair bit softer seems like the way to go: more light per watt, better spread, less watts per board means lower temps and again better efficiency.
About 75$ each

1 meanwell HLG480H-48A - this item you can also get at digikey.com, i think its free shipping on orders over 60$. It means you wouldnt have to pay extra shipping from china, also if you ever have a problem you dont have to send it to china, you send it to US for warranty. I think its like 7 years warranty and not much price difference compared to china. I think about 130 bux. Driver comes with basic dimming to half power and adjustable voltage, using a tiny screwdriver.

2 x 5 way wago connectors (from china). For use to connect 3-4 boards in parallel. Shouldnt cost more than loose change

Recomendable: get about 20 x 2 way wagos from same alibubbas: the boards use push-in connectors, which means once the cable is in it can be hard to get out. Use a short cable between the board and the 2 way wago and fix the wago to the frame (easy to build from aluminium profile just need to figure out the size you want, drill and screw together using parts sourced locally) using superglue or something. This means you can remove and change cabling easy and also more impotantly: if you ever have a misshap and tugg on the cabling the force will got to the wago and not to the pushin connector, which is really the only weak part of the design and is likely to break if you pull very har har on it. Also use the last 2 wagos for between the driver side and the 5 way wagos for the same reasons as above, and between the driver ac side and a power plugg (you also need to get a plugg with cable, the led driver only comes with short cables, no plugg.

If you want one board for vegg or whatever: get another 6x2 way wagos, another HLG120H-48A for one board only, should give you about 150w power. Wagos are 2 for ac side, 2 dc side of driver, 2 on the side of the board for same reasons as mentioned above. You can build a frame or hang it as it is, but use more than just the 4 corner holes for hanging, they tend to bend if hung with only corner support.

Youd also need some 18awg wiring, soliolidcore is best for the pushin connectors and for dc operation.

Also for safety shrinkwrap all connections so its water proof and importantly ground the frame just in case.


And youre good to go. All connections are pushin or wago so no need to solder. Frame and wiring is easy to source locally. Youd only need some screwdrivers and a drill for the frame.

Remember growing with led is not like HID/Hps. Temps sould be between 80-84 at cannopy, a bit hotter to make up for no Infrared in leds. Nutes are similar, but defo get sone calmag if youre using RO or in coco. It might take one run to get it right. The most common beginner mistakes is light to close or overwatering.

Some of this might not make sense right now, but when you have it in front of you it will, i promise! And if not you can allways ask.
 
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