LED grow from start to finish

calitrees916

calitrees916

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diyled said:
I still dont get it. So you remove all the leafs, to get a week recovery time, just for them to grow back more leafs?

What am i missing?

Nice grow btw perfectly heathy :)
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The fan leafs are not removed just to grow back new fan leafs. This is a fairly new technique to me that I've been trying out, one could you imagine how dense the canopy would be with fan leafs if I did not do the strip. With that said bud site after bud site would be covered with fan leafs, I like my bud sites to have light. From my experience with this intense leaf strip you get better developed buds from the top all the way to the bottom, so less larfy buds! I would only do this leaf strip in a situation where you have maximized your canopy space, It helps with air flow in the room too. I can't quite say my yield has increased but I can say I have better lower buds than before. Give it a try and see how it does for you.
 
zypheruk

zypheruk

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Just keep in mind and this is for those new to the stripping method a lot strains will not benefit from stripping, ie those strains which naturally have big internodal spacing and low leaf count. Very bushy strains will benefit if the stripping is done from early veg, it should only slow the plants down by a day or two. Just remember to reduce the nutrient strength for those couple a days and then back to business. The biggest advantage I have seen stripping the plants other than light is airflow which to me in scrogging is highly important.
@calitrees916 sorry for jumping in there and invading your journal.
Things is gonna get fantastic looking in a few weeks.
 
InTheValley

InTheValley

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ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, so nice,


and for the record, OGs hate defoliation, I can tell ya that much,lol. I wont ever leaf strip again. 30% difference,
 
InTheValley

InTheValley

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Yes, FireOG. this is my strain I created, FireOG cross, but my FireOG Og did it to, but wanted to test the leafstrip on this new strain to see how it did. 12/12 from seed, both sides were even when I leafstripped. The bigger side is as big as a beer can, pics do no justice,lol.day74-51flower-thur1.png
 
OldSchoolGrower

OldSchoolGrower

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calitrees916 said:
Good afternoon everyone, so I plan to do my best to document this veg and flower cycle from start to finish with my DIY LED rigs. I have built 2 rigs each composed of 6 HLG QB304s with a mix of 3k and 4k in staggered placement to give a mixed spectrum. I have them powered with 6 hlg-240h-c1050a drivers. 2 boards per driver. Which puts my rigs at about 900watts from the wall a piece. So here are what the rigs look like:
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Very nice light set up...
 
OldSchoolGrower

OldSchoolGrower

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Aolelon said:
It's extremely easy, as shown by plenty of people. All you need is a drill, and some aluminum angle iron from a hardware store. Plus it helps you acquire skill for future projects. It's not massively time consuming to build a setup simple frame to house HLG heatsinks, or strips. It can easily be done in a day or two.
I feel that anyone with two hands, and can drill a hole, would be able to make their own frame to mount heatsinks too.
I'm a member of another forum, and there are people who are building their own frames, with zero prior experience of doing anything of the sort before. So I know if they can pick it up, most people can.
I did this light in a couple hours. Nothing special, but it works for me.
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Nice light set up aolelon. What area your specs? Boards, drivers, watts, potentiometer? Also bulb in the middle, uv or ir? I'm planning on doing a strip light build hopefully after these next two cycles. Currently have a cheap 6 cob full spectrum white light drawing around 300w at the wall and getting another one August 1st to finish this grow up with. Grow is in my grow journal.
 
Aolelon

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OldSchoolGrower said:
Nice light set up aolelon. What area your specs? Boards, drivers, watts, potentiometer? Also bulb in the middle, uv or ir? I'm planning on doing a strip light build hopefully after these next two cycles. Currently have a cheap 6 cob full spectrum white light drawing around 300w at the wall and getting another one August 1st to finish this grow up with. Grow is in my grow journal.
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Its 2 3000k QB v1 288s and 2 4000k QB v2 288s. I'm using 2 240h-c2100A so no potentiameter, as they are internal. And the t5 in the middle is for an agromax Pure UV bulb.
It has a max of 550w and can be dimmed to 173w,
 
OldSchoolGrower

OldSchoolGrower

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calitrees916 said:
@Humple i was once so against this drastic defoliation, like where will photosynthesis occur? However after seeing and hearing about this technique I decided to try it, this is not the first time for me. I started this method with one plant, then a few plants, then half the room, and now I'm convinced that the bud development from top to bottom is way better when applying this technique, so a lot less larfy buds!
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calitrees916 said:
@Humple i was once so against this drastic defoliation, like where will photosynthesis occur? However after seeing and hearing about this technique I decided to try it, this is not the first time for me. I started this method with one plant, then a few plants, then half the room, and now I'm convinced that the bud development from top to bottom is way better when applying this technique, so a lot less larfy buds!
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I agree with you on the strip. I've stripped mine 3 times so far. New growth comes back within a week, and if you look just from the top down on the canopy it looks like they weren't touched at all... Will be stripping again just before I flip 'em and then again 3 weeks into flower. Your grow looks awesome...
 
INF Flux

INF Flux

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I also do a version of the GML strip and topping method. I like to know why things work, turns out the hormones tend to be in the tips of the leaves and for the topping thing, you don't have to remove the whole fan leaf, and can just trim it pretty much anywhere before it gets to the fattest part of the leafs blade. If it stops the leafs outward growth (it'll still get fatter, not longer) you've removed enough, if not, trim closer to the stem. I figure this is less stressful than amputation. I do the same for defoliation, just cut off half of each leaf.
I really like the topping thing as you get three out of one instead of just two and never fully removing anything just seems gentler.

If you don't have a full canopy, just a plant or two, I can see why it wouldn't be as helpful.
 
calitrees916

calitrees916

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zypheruk said:
GML leaf strip and topping, come on guys really, it's been done for years before internet.
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Relax buddy...would you prefer that I use a different term to describe the intense leaf strip??? If so what would be a better term to use? It's really not that serious to make a post about, but I'm glad your here in this thread reading. Happy growing everyone!
 
Randomblame

Randomblame

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calitrees916 said:
Relax buddy...would you prefer that I use a different term to describe the intense leaf strip??? If so what would be a better term to use? It's really not that serious to make a post about, but I'm glad your here in this thread reading. Happy growing everyone!
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Well spoken, like a true Buddhist, bro.. Namaste..
The term GML leaf strip and topping sounds like it's his invention but in fact it is one of the oldest LST techniques ever and is used by many gardeners around the world since a long time. For me it does not matter much as long as I know what is meant. But yea, sometimes there is anyone who is bothered or just find it funny.. I would call it normal forum talk he certainly has no bad intent.
 
calitrees916

calitrees916

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Randomblame said:
Well spoken, like a true Buddhist, bro.. Namaste..
The term GML leaf strip and topping sounds like it's his invention but in fact it is one of the oldest LST techniques ever and is used by many gardeners around the world since a long time. For me it does not matter much as long as I know what is meant. But yea, sometimes there is anyone who is bothered or just find it funny.. I would call it normal forum talk he certainly has no bad intent.
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Thank you for clearing the air. I know with "text" words can be interpreted in the wrong way all the time due to lack of expression. I don't think he is here for bad intent either. I use the term GML strip more as a description more so than the actual name of the technique. I personally like to refer to it as an intense leaf strip. Hopefully no one is offended and we can all play nice. Cheers fellows.
 
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