LED Without LEDs -My First T5 Grow

Fonzarelli

Fonzarelli

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kpmarine said:
Wow, dick statement man. Way to come off as a tool...
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the only reason i'm replying to your post is because i know you are a fake. you joined a few months ago and yet have 1000's of posts. poly, try reading this dumbshit's other posts before taking sides. he's an x-marine, probably got booted for "dropping the soap" one to many times in the shower. and stay the fuck out of my thread u fucking asshole(not you poly the other dumbass). but really though, why are you taking sides with this piece of shit? you should see some of the first posts that were made by them. complete nonsense to get more posts to "look cool." not working
 
Fonzarelli

Fonzarelli

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kpmarine said:
Maybe I misread your dimensions then. Are they length x width x height? If so, I'd try to make it long enough to fit a 4 foot t5 setup in there. You'd need about 24"x47" roughly for an 8 bulb T5.So it would need to be a bit wider than that. That light should have the footprint to cover you for 3-5 mothers.
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he must have said at least 2 times that his cab space is only 3' foot wide for the plants. try reading his question before posting. that was the whole point, READ BEFORE POSTING fool.
 
Fonzarelli

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kpmarine said:
I'm not seeing how you can squeeze 5 mothers in there. Plus, you'd have to use a 2', which is not very cost-effective, and has a tiny footprint. The 2' and 4' T5 bulbs are generally the same price. I can veg 6 reasonably sized plants under a 4' with 8 bulbs, but you need at least 24"x47" just for the light. If you're pulling that many clones off each plant, you need good sized mothers. That's all going to eat some space. How much space do your mothers take up currently? For a mother plant that you could pull 8 cuts the size you want, that is probably going to be at least 1sq.ft. of canopy. In my estimation, you'd need more space.
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again you post useless information, he said 3' not 4'. can you get that through your thick ass dickhead? is this good help? no it's not, that's why i called you out on it. damn you are so dumb. yet you decide to ridicule me before even checking first. just fucking dumb, someone should boot your ass out of here.
 
Fonzarelli

Fonzarelli

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kpmarine said:
Someone needed to get their post count up.
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and this isn't a dick statement? what fucking dumb

u must do a lot of nothing to sit around posting bullshit here on the web all day. joined a few months ago and already bitching at people about how you have more posts than they do. no more stupid posts you dumbshit asshole
 
Fonzarelli

Fonzarelli

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majestic 12 said:
Fonz I appreciate the help my man ..
Just Grabbed a few T5 Quantum badboy hoods and a sun system designer 8 bulb
have the 4 bulbs quantums over my clones and the 8 bulb designer over my rooted
cuts ..


These are currently with quantum 6500 and flora suns staggered every other ..
media is coco ...rooting like gangbusters in the clear cups..


With that 2 bulb configuration in mind do you think I need to add anything else
that will actually make a difference ? It seems to be kicking ass so far ..


Take care


and don't worry about the lil girls here with the emotional problems
they most likely havn't had mommy bring them a pop tart and getting
irritable.
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i've found that 2-bulbs are enough for rooting cuttings. in fact, i've found 4-bulbs to be more than they can handle at times. 2 florasuns work really well for rooting.

if you want to add another bulb to your setup you could swap out one of the 6500k's for a 420nm bulb like a Coral Wave. That well stop any stretching that may be happening.
 
kpmarine

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Fonzarelli said:
and this isn't a dick statement? what fucking dumb

u must do a lot of nothing to sit around posting bullshit here on the web all day. joined a few months ago and already bitching at people about how you have more posts than they do. no more stupid posts you dumbshit asshole
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I was going to take the time to respond to this whole thing, then I realized that the number of fucks I give about your opinions is "none". Due to this, I am just going to say these things: If you don't like me, put me on ignore. It's super easy. Watch... I just did it to you.
 
Chimone

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Hmm.....looks like Ill choose this thread for my first post. New MMJ cardholder getting ready to jump into growing here.....
Its interesting. I am pretty big in the Marine Fish hobby and know lighting pretty well. I chose T5HOs and LEDs over MHs and HPS bulbs for energy cost. Both work very well for growing corals.
Now when OP says hes using T5s im assuming youre meaning T5HOs? Normal T5s dont do much for shit other than adding some ambient light to a space. I have a couple 48" T5HO fixtures I was planning on using for vegging. Dual 54W 12000k lights combined with dual 420nm Super Blue Actinics should work well Im thinking. Blue light for veg, red for flower correct?
Thoughts?
 
polyarcturus

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my thought woulde be not just red for flower blue for veg. you want a full balanced spectrum, that is blue dominant for veg and red dominant for flower.

yes we are talking abot 54w T5HO bulbs.

for veg i like a mix of 10000k, 5000k Florasuns and a single 460nm truelumen bulb.

as for flower i would use a mix florasun,and UVL 660nm, and maybe one or two 10000k
 
Ninjabowler

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I bought a reef light from a friend and it came with reef bulbs so i tossed the light into the game without changing the bulbs. Seems like its doing great. Have you done tests between regular bulbs and reef bulbs? If you did, and took pictures you could really open some eyes with some good results. My reef bulbs are working good for now but im still wondering if i should change them out for regular. Im a hobby grower just building up so I dont know much but i would hate to throw out a good product because someone says reef bulbs dont work for land plants.
 
polyarcturus

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there are tons of pics on this thread and elsewhere, ive been vegging under 10000k and florasuns for a while with amazing results.
 
PetFlora

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hyroot said:
Im selling my t5 s.im over replacing bulbs so often. Im going the inda gro route
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I hear you brother. I have 2 tents going

1. HOT5 8 bulb (but I ramp up from 2-4-6-8 during onset of flower. Then, following mother nature, during mid-flower back down to 6- 4

2. LEDs I was an early adapter (ufo 90 R:B 9:1), before studying mmj lighting , and well, overpaid ($350 for supposedly 90w), BUT, I continue to get my moneys' worth using it and supplementing it with cool white, warm white leds during veg + Repti-Sun and Basking light (halogen) during flower.

I am totally blown away by what a combined ~ 90w can do. Here's proof


Here are pics taken last Friday. The first 3 are from led tent. It is as tall as the tallest under HOT5, and 3xs fatter than any under the HOT5 (432w), but results are strain dependent. It is not that I am disappointed with the HO T5, but bulb replacement is a consideration.
 

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2001vettez06

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ok I'm updating my experience here. I had 2- 2x4 tents with T5 8 bulb fixtures. Had a really nice mix of Red sun, 6500k, Floragrow(I think that's the name, but got at PetCo and a nice general red blend, Actinic blue, and 10k bulbs. and one of the german Purples. Looking at the cast of light on walls I tried to tune it very similar to my LED's so try to mimic the color as best as possible.

2 runs in each tent. Ok results, but after now switching to Area51 LED's in one of the 2x4 tents the results of the LED blow away the t5's. the LED's are also drawing less watts. Running two of the older AF100's ie 100x3w diodes with true draw of ~185w ea. or about 365-370 total. The T5 setup was drawing about 440w from what I recall. Where I can really tell is how nicely the nodes are stacking, and how much more even the canopy is and not as patchy as with the T5's. Buds are also looking way denser, and the T5 buds were a fair bit fluffy too. Not horrible, and if this was my only option or I spent more time refining the T5's they are a legit option, but the LED's are better IMO. Plus I had these as "extra" after upgrading my main flower room with new Area51 LEDs.

IMO the T5's are awesome veg lights and I'll use my spare bulbs and t5 fixtures for that from now on. I have the LED's I can use for all my flowering needs now. Makes me wonder what I'm missing with HID, but for me HID was not an option, or one I felt comfortable with anyway.
 
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captainmorgan said:
Need some input on my first grow.Do these look like they're were they should be for day 16 of flower?
8 lamp 4' T5 with 2 flora suns,2 aqua suns,2 red suns and 2 quantum 2700k
2' x 4' scrog screen in a cabinet.
4 plants in 5.2 gal airpots with FF soil[/QUOTE
Those look great! Nice even canopy...well trained. Make sure to clear out everything under the canopy...I.e.smaller leaves and stems. Your right on track.
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PetFlora

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PROF XAVIER said:
captainmorgan said:
Need some input on my first grow.Do these look like they're were they should be for day 16 of flower?
8 lamp 4' T5 with 2 flora suns,2 aqua suns,2 red suns and 2 quantum 2700k
2' x 4' scrog screen in a cabinet.
4 plants in 5.2 gal airpots with FF soil[/QUOTE
Those look great! Nice even canopy...well trained. Make sure to clear out everything under the canopy...I.e.smaller leaves and stems. Your right on track.
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Up until 3 days ago I was using Aquasuns on the outsides (1 & 8) until I compared SDGs against my other bulbs, and noted I had way too much 500-600 (you only need/want ~ 15%) for flowering. I would replace the ASs with more Red Life/Sun or 2 more Quantum 2700s
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PetFlora said:
PROF XAVIER said:
Up until 3 days ago I was using Aquasuns on the outsides (1 & 8) until I compared SDGs against my other bulbs, and noted I had way too much 500-600 (you only need/want ~ 15%) for flowering. I would replace the ASs with more Red Life/Sun or 2 more Quantum 2700s
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Guess I should have posted a update.I was using the aqua suns while filling in the screen and shortly after that post I swapped them out for 2 UVL 660's. I cut,trimmed and hung to dry yesterday, day 57.Here's a pic from day 54.
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PetFlora

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Apparently, at least some strains do not react well to too much 660

A combination of Red Life/Suns + Floro Suns is preferable to them

Probably in a 3:1 ratio
 
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