Left the 600, taking on the vert, CFL style

lamopa said:

LOL, sorry thenot I have to disagree! I have run only 150w HPS lights and they are MUCH hotter than CFL's. I can only imagine 250w's will be that much hotter.

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Is your light a self contained ballast?

Because my 250 was a remote ballast which was not very hot at all. I could easily use a vent booster fan for cooling and the hot ballast set outside of the grow room.

I know a lot of 250 hps come with a self contained ballast and I think all 150 hps's are in fact self contain ballast lighting units. Which means the ballast is contained in the reflector so you have the heat of the ballast and the heat of the bulb to control.

So yes if you have a self contained lighting system it will not be cooler than a small group of cfls. Cheers.

LOL... Well only showing part of the plant. Yield was a shade over 3 oz total. Strain, Dinafem Roadrunner Autoflower.

Was part of a auto contest by Kulong on this site.
Search "Cage Match".

EDIT; nugs were pretty tight.

well, i got my flower room empty, preparing for vert, i used to have the walls lined with mylar, in my veg tent, ive noticed the reflective material seems to trick my ladies into growing not towards my light..

hoping to switch to 12/12 within one week, as for the health of my ladies, i really wish they were doing better :/

gosh, ok, sooo, i think i dove into this a little wrong..


i transplanted my 1 gal smart pots, to huge pots.. wellll, air pots make a unique root structure.. not like plastic buckets, with roots hitting the walls...

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ive had ill issues with my ladies supposed to go into flower, they are not recovering, only seem to be fading away.. this make me maddddd

i do have babies in veg though, no air pots.. gonna start off this thread again, with the babies.. soooo, see ya around..


(ive spent soooooooo much time neglecting my babies, 2 jobs endless work, really just want to get somethang goinggggggg again.

see yall verti

I'll be around! Sorry to hear your having growing problems, but with two jobs Im not surprised... Most people are under the impression you just put plants in the dirt turn a light on then harvest two pounds. This takes time love and care.

Actually, you can just just put them in dirt and harvest two pounds. Don't even got to turn on a light. Just hide em good!

God forbid you have to lug water out to gorilla grow, iv done it and its not fun at all plus your running more risk outside of your own home. Now if your in a med state thats a different story, back yard multipound plants all day long but you still have to be around to maintain them.
To do this well you need to be around is all Im saying/.

sry to hear about the plants, did you trim the plants like that ? im having lil trouble myself also , i guess 6mo veggin is lil long

hey guys, thanks for the kind words. i ended ripping my ladies out of the dirt.. it was for the better.. the root structure was so uglyyyy.. had about one with a longgg stringy root, the other, did not have any new root growth..

i did this entirely wrong.. tried going from smart pots, to bigger pots.. roots in smart pots dont chase the edges, thats what makes them soo awesome alone!

but i didnt want to eventually end up watering my ladies twice a day towards the end, so i attempted to go bigger.. well. ya, next one is on its way!!



ill try and get some pics up of the current girls in this run.

i got a few ladies in veg:
1- purple kush
2- Ron Burgundy Kush
1- XJ-13

my two rbk look like they gonna be my babies going for this round again, so things should be fairly similar, just better homes! so far i have 4 tops on each of the plants. Main lined ish :]

still busy as hell, im trying to fit in enough love and time for my girls.. take care all!

Fuck. That!

Quit both your Jobs and Grow for a Living!


Sorry for you man but listen here... It's really NOT that time consuming.. Especially in Soil... Keep the lights far enough away to where it doesn't toast the plants if you didn't check on it for 6 hours... Keep the light on 24/7 so you don't have to worry if the timer went off or not... Feed/water every other day and Boom!.... Harvest.

Growing is probably the easiest thing to do... It's just those who want to exceed their expectations that get overwhelmed.


Take care

Guzias1 said:

well, i got my flower room empty, preparing for vert, i used to have the walls lined with mylar, in my veg tent, ive noticed the reflective material seems to trick my ladies into growing not towards my light..

hoping to switch to 12/12 within one week, as for the health of my ladies, i really wish they were doing better :/

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I would not switch them until they are in perfect..PERFECT health.

If i were growing in a closet around 3 ft by 5 ft by 6 ft.The room would be lined with ORCA film.This is not the same as as mylar or panda film..Forget about it. its not even in the same class.Orca paper has a higher reflective rating and diffuses the light better than even german dimple aluminum.
The next thing i would look for (normally i do not like sealed hoods)but id duct one in to evacuate the heat from the closet.
Most probably id be looking for a duct run either in the attic or in the crawl space and run a cooling run to the closet.(id just Y of a existing duct run)If i had a crawl space i might just think about taking cooler air from the crawl and forcing high volumes of it through the closet and out into the attic,I wouldnt do any type of stadium grow in such a small space.Why? Because the way the bulb takes up floor space underneath it.You would want to utilize as much floor space as possible in such a small grow.
The logic behind vert grows is understandable the bulb gives off light in all directions.But with a hood you take the other three directions focus and magnify them in one direction creating a more intense focused effect.
If you were to use a HID light .The light and ballast will need 3.4 BTU per watt.So a 100 watt light will need 340 Btuh.One ton of cooling is 12000 btuh at 400 cfm of air movement.Each 100 cfm will hold 3000 btuh.
A six inch duct split off from someplace else in the house .not hard and only cost a few bucks. will hold 60 to around 80 CFM of air.Or 1800 Btuh to 2400 Btuh. Or enough to cool 400 to 600 watts of usage in a confined 3x6x6 area. and a complete room air change over ever min and a half.
Id force the air from the bottom even if i had to run the air vent from the ceiling all the way to the floor and have a vent tube leading the the attic forcing the hot air up and out through positive pressure.
The holes in the ceiling and floor can always be patched latter.
Without me having complete specifics for heat loads and calculations this should give you some general idea.This may make your house A/C run longer as some capacity is being stolen from it and you will want the fan on the furnace/ac set to run all the time.Do not add a inline fan in the closet but allow the pressure from the air coming in to pressurize the area and force the air out of it..
If you were to have a basement or crawl space the air will be cooler coming from them but it may be a bit humid.Check the temps if you can force enough into the space and force again the heat up and out the ceiling through positive pressure you can cool the area with it also
I hope some of these ideas will help folks..good luck.

dayumm max, thanks for the loads of info..

i never made the switch, i ripped them, out, i have learned not to waste time putting ugly plants into flower.. with my small setup.. things need to be good before the next level :]

i will not be doing stadium, or horizontal . i started off horizontal. i thought i did pretty decent towards my last runs.. but the energy bills have been too steep.

I have found the reflective walls in vertical to be counter productive, and tricky to my solar panels.. i want my blades to focus on the direct light, rather than faint light off the back walls..

heat issues only hurt during the summer. I have studied air flow, and have a sense of what needs to happen to get the most at of the least..

my cool dry air comes from my room, into my closet... humidity is rather high below my room. so i use that as my exhaust..

the weather is now getting chillier.. temps are no longer an issue!! :]

now the goal is to get my babies beefed up so they can move into the vert setupppppppppppppppppppppp.

i was thinking of just doin the 2 burgs.. but with what i got, i think i'll be throwing 4 plants in come flower.. each plant gonna be a little different in training.. so far i have 4 plants, with all totaling 11 main branches..

the choices the choices..

feniannn, i used to do 24/7... but along with that, i wanted to save energy. and also, i feel my plants do better with the rest.. i like watching them go to sleep, and wake up energized :]

i dont even clone in 24/7 any more.. straight 18/6 for everything not in flower.

ive had to down size. and that has been the rough part.. usually people want to go bigger i sure dooo. but i like where i am living..


fenian.. quit jobs, ha!! growing weed dont give me that emergency medical coverage :/

shoot, i cant believe how important that is now...

i have a grip load of time consuming things to take care of. my sleep schedule is fucked..

i havent got laid in .....................................................................

Have you looked into autos? No cloning. 24/7 light. Harvest in 8 weeks from seed.

You don't have to have multiple places to put plants, you can randomly put new seeds in and have a perpectual every 2 weeks.

And in soil, takes alot less looking out for than in hydro. Shit you don't even need to fertilize!! Yeah they won't like it, but water till harvest has been done by me... No complaints, I harvested bud didn't I?

I can't help with the Getting Laid part..... Maybe try Craigslist?

haha. i do appreciate the art of cloning, vegging, and flowering.. i dont like trimming too much though :]

autos sound nice. but i like my strains i got going. none of the strains are from clubs, or sellers, they were all passed to me by different friends.

i treasure them :]

i do like the soil route.. ive been doing it the whole time :] ... if it was my job, i'd go hydro..

i just had really stupid issues with the last transplant..

waitt, wtf???? did you say autos for 24/7?? no dark?

wtf is that.. heheheee

anddd. as for getting laid. there was a time when i went out.. but with all the shit on the plate, i dont see myself going out much for at least a couple months...

craigslist hahahaaaa.

seriously 24/7 no dark? i dont get..

what part of the world has sun 24/7???

No Transplanting either!!!

Seriously... Give this a Read: http://www.autoflowering-cannabis.com/complete-autoflowering-plant-grow-guide.html


Yes, I know many people who get Ass off craigslist