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Discussion in 'Grow Journals' started by im4satori, Mar 27, 2017.

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    im4satori

    im4satori Well-Known Member

    so my first run i averaged 28+oz per light at 1150 watts

    second run i averaged 27 oz per light at 1000 watts

    this next batch at 4 weeks i think might beat both the previous runs maybe getting close to the 2lbs per light mark cuz they look pretty fat at 4 weeks and they've had an almost flawless run with no issues so far
     
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    tpc_mikey

    tpc_mikey Well-Known Member

    Looking awesome bro, guess i might need to look into the cobs, you think you will eventually replace your HPS with them?
     
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    tpc_mikey

    tpc_mikey Well-Known Member

    Amazing how much my clones have grown under that LED in just 6 days here are pics 6 days apart IMG_0337.JPG IMG_0341.JPG
     
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    im4satori

    im4satori Well-Known Member

    not sure yet

    for now in veg the literally kick the shit out of these old T5 fixtures
    its crazy the difference even at 1/3 power consumption the cobbs kill the T5

    but im not sure about bloom yet
    eventually im going to do a side by side and see how it compares

    i might just add some cobbs to my flower space and dial down the hps and split the difference

    if i grew in s small space or in a tent i would absolutely be using the cob lights but luckily i have plenty of ceiling height

    either way itll be a slow process before i can afford to build any more cobs
     
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    im4satori

    im4satori Well-Known Member

    plus... i need the heat the hps throw during the winter months... they help heat my house lol

    the veg space is already running cooler so the fan cycles on and off less so the humidity is higher than before when i was running more watts using the T5 which created more heat but also lowered the humidity
     
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    ttystikk

    ttystikk Well-Known Member

    I have some water cooled LED modules that will shed enough water to heat your house with...
     
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    im4satori

    im4satori Well-Known Member

    if I only I had a set up like even similar to yours lol

    wouldn't that be awesome

    radiant floor heating that's warmed by a huge fucking grow space... only in my dreams lol
     
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    im4satori

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    so I did some slurry test for NPK and the results where informative

    I tested

    1) the pots that just recycled 2 weeks ago and are cooking

    2) the pots that are in week 4 of bloom

    3) pots that are finished but yet to be recycled


    so let start with
    1) pots that just recycled and cooking

    the N was surplused
    the P adequate
    the K adequate

    im not going to feed to much into the N being high because I watered the cooking pots in with fish emulsion and im sure that's where the extra N is from
    I need to get some more K in the mix for sure and that will be the theme for all 3 tests results


    2) the pots that are 4 weeks into flower
    the N surplus
    the P adequate
    the K adequate/slightly depleted.... would like to see it higher

    what I take from this is I need to top dress with some guano to boost my P for the remaining amount of bloom.....
    at the start of bloom I top dressed with high N guano and alfalfa, likelihood I could have voided the high N guano so I will omit that in the future
    again im very low on K and the plants are showing it in the lower leaves... possibly top dress with more kelp meal at the start of bloom to boost K

    3) pots that are finished but yet to be recycled

    the N surplus
    the P sufficient
    the K depleted severly

    so again I need to lay off the high N guano at the start of bloom and I shouldn't have watered with fish emulsion and maybe stick with hydrolyzed fish instead



    over all I need to get the K way up


    things Ive done to correct, any pointers would be appreciated to let me know im on the right track with my process

    1)I added or adding 3/4 cup per cubic ft of greensand to help get some K in the mix down the road
    2) dumping the fish meal in my mix and switching to feather meal and adding a little bone meal for some extra P

    previous mix (1.5 cups per cubic ft)
    2 parts kelp
    1part alfalfa
    1part crab
    1part neem
    1/2 part fish meal
    plus
    1 cup gypsum per cubic ft

    new mix after adjustments (1.5 cups per cubic ft)
    2 part kelp
    1part alfalfa
    1part neem
    1 part feather meal
    1/2 part bone meal
    plus
    1 cup gypsum per cubic ft



    ive also added a small amount of pine bark to my soils to help with aeration and im cutting my compost down to roughly 20% total mix

    I also added a good sum of biochar

    im looking into my options to increase K
    im a little confused over the difference between potash and water soluble potassium sulfate and how it affects biology when cooked into the soil and im trying to get my head wrapped around my K options

    I ended up watering all my pots in with a mix of mono potassium phosphate and potassium sulfate with a small amount of Epsom salt at what was a total EC 1.0 roughly
    with most of that being K at 250ppm

    so for now that's how im getting my K but id like to figure out how to get it cooked into the soil at higher amounts from the start and not need to constantly watering it in and chasing it so any pointers on that would be appreciated
     
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    im4satori

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    im4satori

    im4satori Well-Known Member

    here are two of the three test results

    the top pick is the pots of the plats currently at 4 weeks into 12/12

    the bottom is the post that I have cooking at the moment
     
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    im4satori

    im4satori Well-Known Member

    I didn't mention the ph tests

    but they all came back good

    6.0 to 6.5 range .. a little low but im good as long as im above 6 im happy
     
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    im4satori

    im4satori Well-Known Member

    @Buba Blend

    oops meant to tag you over here not over there lol
     
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    im4satori

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    im4satori

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    here are the crosses

    just took clones from them and about to put them in bloom soon

    a couple already showed sex

    im going to go ahead and run these to finish and kull the males as I go and hope I get the males early enough to not throw pollen

    so weve got

    SA X LK
    SA X OGK
    SA X HB
    HB X LK

    SA = SATROI F2, MANDALA SEED CO
    LK = LEMON KUSH , DNA GENITICS
    HB = HEAD BAND, CALI CONNECTION
    OGK = OG KUSH #18, RESVER PREVADA
     
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    im4satori

    im4satori Well-Known Member

    so far they all seem to have that short thick stemmed growth pattern like the satori male

    nice and bushy
     
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    tpc_mikey

    tpc_mikey Well-Known Member

    They look amazing bet that headband and lemon are gonna be stupid nice.
     
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    im4satori

    im4satori Well-Known Member

    not sure

    ive got low expectations from the cali

    the girls from the pack where good yielders with nice chunky nugs so we shall see
     
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    im4satori

    im4satori Well-Known Member

    october3.JPG



    finally got around to getting my EWC

    I ended up not feeding them a while and they got real hungry
    then I put fresh fruit scraps on one side of the bin and a couple days later all the worms where on one side

    took all the castings from the empty side then added some peat and took the top layer off with the fruit cuttings and moved it over on top of the peat

    waited another 2 days and cleaned out the other side

    it was actually real easy and much simpler than I was making it out o be in my head

    all together I ended up with about 15 gallons of vermicompost from one 30 gallon tote container and I started in the early spring

    eventually im going to double that by adding another container maybe even two


    no that trash cans not full ( I wish) its just the lid turned over sitting on top lol
     
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    im4satori

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    im4satori

    im4satori Well-Known Member

    these are the 4 pots with the diy seed at 12 days into 12/12

    most of them are lemon og (fem) x satori f2 (male)

    much broader leafed than the lemon og..more like the satori genetics in structure with thick stalked stalks
     
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