light and airy buds??

Al B. Fuct said:

There should be no microbes in a proper inorganic hydroponic system. There's no need for them. We're not dealing with an orchid that absolutely relies on a fungus found in the roots of certain trees.



H2O2 takes that role in hydrooponics.





I have zero evidence before me that plants can use sugars as a nutrient. I have the same amount of evidence supporting the use of petrol as a fertiliser. Should I try some petrol, too? How many ml/L?

I've said it before, I don't have to jump off a cliff to prove I can't fly.


My mind is not closed. I am open to any real botanical science- that's the rules these things operate under, not wives tales.

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Woah woah... your talking hydro now?... Molasses is ONLY recommended in soil... never hydro.... sugar in hydro will cause root rot quicker than you can think ...we all know that...

Al B. Fuct said:

There should be no microbes in a proper inorganic hydroponic system. There's no need for them. We're not dealing with an orchid that absolutely relies on a fungus found in the roots of certain trees.



H2O2 takes that role in hydrooponics.





I have zero evidence before me that plants can use sugars as a nutrient. I have the same amount of evidence supporting the use of petrol as a fertiliser. Should I try some petrol, too? How many ml/L?

I've said it before, I don't have to jump off a cliff to prove I can't fly.


My mind is not closed. I am open to any real botanical science- that's the rules these things operate under, not wives tales.

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Yes you should use petrol, drink 1 liter yourself and see what happens.You can stop saying over and over that plants do not use sugar, nobody is saying that, just start drinking that petrol. Maybe you can fly go try that too and see if you can fly.

genfranco said:

Woah woah... your talking hydro now?... Molasses is ONLY recommended in soil... never hydro.... sugar in hydro will cause root rot quicker than you can think ...we all know that...

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Hey is Al b talking about hydro, no wonder, mollases is used for soil only, as it only benfits the micro organisms that are only found in soil. But hey you can still try that petro experiment.

The reason we got on sugars in this thread was due to an assertion that they would increase bud density. In fact, the answer is no from a direct cause & effect standpoint.

If the purpose of sugars in a soil grow is to feed microbes which then break down organic matter into inorganic elemental nutrients which the plant can directly use, why not simply provide the elemental nutrients themselves instead of adding food for any old Tom Dick & microbe, which may be friend or foe? You can't get the sugar to feed one without feeding the others.

I'll let you guys try the petrol thing first... lemme know how ya go.

Al B. Fuct said:

The reason we got on sugars in this thread was due to an assertion that they would increase bud density. In fact, the answer is no from a direct cause & effect standpoint.

If the purpose of sugars in a soil grow is to feed microbes which then break down organic matter into inorganic elemental nutrients which the plant can directly use, why not simply provide the elemental nutrients themselves instead of adding food for any old Tom Dick & microbe, which may be friend or foe? You can't get the sugar to feed one without feeding the others.

I'll let you guys try the petrol thing first... lemme know how ya go.

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Well al b ... you know that those products are normally made fro hydroponics use... and why not use molasses if it works... its 3 dollars for a big jar of it and you only use a tbsp worth each time you water... why buy another 17$ bottle of someshit... If this works .. then it works...

i dont suggest you drinking petrol... Im sure you were joking but just in case... lol

damn al b .. So this whole time... you dont have soil experience?... only hydro..?

genfranco said:

Well al b ... you know that those products are normally made fro hydroponics use...

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what products?

and why not use molasses if it works...

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Works for what? It doesn't do a thing for plants!

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damn al b .. So this whole time... you dont have soil experience?... only hydro..?

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Nah, I don't have any 'soil experience' as you say... I get the fuckin' garden gnomes to do all this shit...







Ya like this 12ft cherry tomato plant which yielded >450 fruit? I hear the gnomes didn't put any moleasses on it.

check out some of the advanced nutrients...they have a few products that speak about root breakdown and such.... Molasses works for the micro organisms... werent you reading?.. and i see a bunch of tomatoes out there... little green.... you sure can grow weeds in soil too... just not thc weed

Dont be rude il b...

Your starting to make me think thats your moms garden

genfranco said:

check out some of the advanced nutrients...they have a few products that speak about root breakdown and such....

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There's indeed some sugar sauce products sold for hydroponics but there's no evidence they work. Just because someone mixes some sugar with some water & puts a fancy label on it is not proof of efficacy.

The most infamous sugar sauce is 'Carbo Load',' which has a profoundly misleading name, which references a practise of marathon runners, that of eating a lot of pasta or other carbs before a race to provide sustained energy. Plants can't eat carbs, but they certainly can make them.

Molasses works for the micro organisms... werent you reading?..

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Do you smoke microorganisms? I don't. I don't care to grow any, thanks,.

and i see a bunch of tomatoes out there... little green....

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Well, isn't that what cherry tomatoes are supposed to be?

you sure can grow weeds in soil too... just not thc weed

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Yep, eggplant weeds, cherry & Grosse Lisce tomato weeds, carrot weeds, capsicum weeds, spring onion weeds...

Dont be rude il b...

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Why yes daddy, I will mind my tongue, just for you. Not.

Your starting to make me think thats your moms garden

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Nah, I don't let mom near my veg patch, because...


Welcome to early spring, seedlings went in yesterday.

wow...nice ... no advanced nutrients has this other product ....ill search for it...

i was talking about this one for the roots... not about sugar....

ah, right, an enzymatic agent. protein based, aids in breakdown of dead organic matter. Incompatible with H2O2 as H2O2 will nuke the proteins.

dude, you grew them with 42 watt cfl's. what did you think was gonna happen? thats like growin an outdoor plant in the shade. next time use a 600 or a 1000 watt hps. you'll see the difference.

sugars are simple carbohydrates not complex as stated above

and this thread is 4 years old

wizim said:

and this thread is 4 years old

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lol i read through all the pages until realizing this. someone rep me please for my time LOL hahaha a haaa talk about being stoneeed