Light Upgrade for 2x2, need help.

HitemwiththeHine said:

AS others have said, you'll need about 150 watts of high quality led lighting in your space to really max it out. The 135 watt board from HLG is an excellent choice.

To assist you with some perspective on these lights, my most recent harvest was 12 zips with a 260xl (in a 2x4)

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pulpoinspace said:

i recommend building yourself a DIY fixture with quantum boards or cobs and making sure its 400w max for the 3x3 and dimmable for the 2x2.

for example:

you could buy 2 packs of
https://horticulturelightinggroup.com/collections/quantum-boards/products/qb288-with-slate-2-heatsink
and one of the
https://www.arrow.com/en/products/hlg-480h-c2100b/mean-well-enterprises

make sure to get a B type driver so you can dim it. wire the boards in series. if you ran all 4 at full power you'd be at around ~400w. wire a potentiometer to the driver you could run them at half power in your 2x2.

if you don't want to DIY you could buy
http://timbergrowlights.com/model-3cqs/
or
http://timbergrowlights.com/model-4vs/ (this is what i have in my 3x3 and it works great)

they are dimmable so you could run them at half power in your 2x2 and crank them up to full when you get a 3x3. imo, the pre-built QB fixtures don't really lend themselves as well to working in both spaces because of their bigger form factor but you could make something work if you get creative.

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HitemwiththeHine said:

AS others have said, you'll need about 150 watts of high quality led lighting in your space to really max it out. The 135 watt board from HLG is an excellent choice.

To assist you with some perspective on these lights, my most recent harvest was 12 zips with a 260xl (in a 2x4)

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Medicated Bonsai said:

Thank you for all the help guys! I would go with the 260w XW QB V2 Led Kit from HLG but I don't have anything to solder wires... I think I might go with the Quantum Boards from Timber Grow Lights instead. Its just a simple plug and play but has anyone used these before? I'm still pretty new to all of this and don't know much about quality of lights. I just want to verify that this would be a proper purchase.

http://timbergrowlights.com/model-24sams/

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Medicated Bonsai said:

Thank you for all the help guys! I would go with the 260w XW QB V2 Led Kit from HLG but I don't have anything to solder wires... I think I might go with the Quantum Boards from Timber Grow Lights instead. Its just a simple plug and play but has anyone used these before? I'm still pretty new to all of this and don't know much about quality of lights. I just want to verify that this would be a proper purchase.

http://timbergrowlights.com/model-24sams/

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HitemwiththeHine said:

Lol here, she isn't looking very well kept atm, I need to do a 2 week defol in a few days. 260xl! View attachment 4195547
Ps. The bottom of the red cap is 20 inches from the diodes. This is the first time I've filled a tent this big with a single plant, so I'm sure it'll be a learning experience.

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Medicated Bonsai said:

Just curious but are none of the blurple lights even good? Even the high end ones? Kind, Platinum, BlackDog, etc.

What a Monster . This is what i'd like to get to in the future but I think I messed up on the height of my tent(4 foot). Could I mainline and just grow the two tops until the tent/canopy fills? Thats what i'm currently doing. I tied the two main tops down into a T. I'm keeping them tied low until I have about 8 branches on either side but the canopy is already 18 inches from the light at day 29.

Also, I ordered some nutrients today along with an inline fan, 6" exhaust fan, and carbon filter. I know a 4" would've been fine but I wanted to move this into a 3x3 or 2x4 after this first grow. I don't have much knowledge in nutrients so could someone tell me if I ordered the right ones?

Remo Nutrients : Micro, Grow, Bloom
Advanced Nutrients : Big Bud
Botanicare : CalMag Plus

I also have House Garden's "Amino Treatment" and "Roots Excelurator" already.

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HitemwiththeHine said:

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In case you were interested, here she is after a massive haircut. You can see I thinned that huge dark mass in the middle, along with most tertiary branches (mains>secondaries>tertiaries). I try to keep it all mains and secondaries because the buds will be tiny and there will be tons of suckers otherwise. Full speed ahead!

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giantsfan24 said:

What size pot is that? Looks small.

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HitemwiththeHine said:

View attachment 4197268

In case you were interested, here she is after a massive haircut. You can see I thinned that huge dark mass in the middle, along with most tertiary branches (mains>secondaries>tertiaries). I try to keep it all mains and secondaries because the buds will be tiny and there will be tons of suckers otherwise. Full speed ahead!

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Medicated Bonsai said:

Dang I feel like I may end up with a lot of popcorn buds haha. I only topped once and I just let the branches grow off the two mains.

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Medicated Bonsai said:

Dang I feel like I may end up with a lot of popcorn buds haha. I only topped once and I just let the branches grow off the two mains.

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Mafiaal said:

Just noticed your space is a 2x2 or 4sqft ....

Here are some ideas for you...
3 (36v cobs) with one 22" rail with an HLG-185H-1400c for 151.2TW
or 3 (52V cobs) same rail with a HLG-240H-C1400 for 218.4 total watts

How hard you push COB's makes a big difference just remember that when you push them above 75-80w you may want to consider active cooling.

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Medicated Bonsai said:

I decided to say screw the tent and just grow in my closet. The grow area will be about 26"x48"x80". I'm pretty set on getting this light but its pretty pricey. I don't mind dishin out the money as long as the fixture itself is worth the cost.

https://chilledgrowlights.com/product-category/diy-led-grow-light-kits

Is it worth getting or should I just save my money and go with the HLG or Timber boards?

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