light ?

smkpt

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hey everyone, i notice alot of people use 24/0 and alot of people use 18/6 but i hear its good for the plants to be in the dark for a wile, but if i leave my lights off for 6 hours my grow room gets WAY to cold, so my ? is can i have my plants on a 21/3 ( 21 hours on and 3 hours off) so i dont have to worrie about stressing my plants?? thnks:joint:
 

northerntights

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yes that should be fine, I found that dark period did help my plants a lot, two days after I switched from 24/0 to 18/6 even the runts had caught up. Your lighting should be fine.
 

Erb

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Make sure your not confusing growth with the plant simply stretching to get more light when you turned down the hours,thats not real growth but an elongation of the internodes.There are many that say 24 hours results in the biggest yield
 

smkpt

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no i know for a fact my plants arnt stretching there only 3 in. and there about 5-6 weeks old (from sprout)
 

Erb

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I was responding to northernlights claim of increased growth with a longer night length.Sure your plants will be taller but will you yield more buds? ..i dont think so
 

northerntights

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actually it wasn't stretching it was actual compact growth, but some people have different experiences, just stating mine.
 

green_nobody

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I was responding to northernlights claim of increased growth with a longer night length.Sure your plants will be taller but will you yield more buds? ..i dont think so
i can ensure you that this is bull!;)

but the dark cycle is needed for root grow and that the plant can use up all the carbon groups it produced out of the energy it gained in photosynthesis during light cycle. if you ask me, a 24/0 cycle is the biggest noob stuff they ever came up with:twisted: and just a damn waste of energy at the best:evil:

18/6 is the way to go in veg:)
 

green_nobody

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Make sure your not confusing growth with the plant simply stretching to get more light when you turned down the hours,thats not real growth but an elongation of the internodes.There are many that say 24 hours results in the biggest yield
stretching ain't caused by light cycle but by poor light placing. for noobs: placing it to far of the plant. CFLs have to stay within 2in of the plant for proper grow without stretch!
 

green_nobody

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Green nobody, do you think i would be ok with 21/3 though??
hell, i don't care what you use, but it has a reason why almost all of us seniors go with 18/6 for vegging, or?! that few hours of light won't bring you anything extra but 6h of rest will:roll:
 

smkpt

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well id like to have some bud more then some male plants (from the stress/cold temps)
 

Erb

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Most green plants are classified as either C3 or C4 which represents how carbon(C) is used during photosynthesis.

C4 plants temporarily store carbon dioxide(CO2) over the dark period to use for photosynthesis during the day. C4 plants slow down photosynthesis once the stored CO2 is used up and they need to gather it from the air. Which is why trees slow down photosynthesis in the afternoon even though the sun is still bright. This does NOT apply to cannabis.

C3 plants(cannabis/veggies) gather CO2 only during the light period when they are photosynthesizing. During the dark period these plants only use oxygen for their metabolic life processes. They don't uptake CO2, nor do they use it. As soon and as long as the light is on, C3 plants gather and use CO2 for photosynthesis.

C3 plants also have the ability to use higher concentrations of CO2 than what is found in the air. If the light is bright enough and the plants have sufficient nutes, their growth rate will accelerate from it(2000ppm vs. 400ppm of CO2), which increases yield. They can do this continuously, wihtout a dark period throughout the vegetative stage.

The dark reaction is a process of photosynthesis that takes place in both darkness and light. It uses ATP and NADPH molecules that hold energy absorbed from light to break apart CO2 into it's base components. Because it's called a dark reaction and can occur in the dark, some people(Jorge) have said darkness is needed for this to occur. This Is Not So.

Again people get anthropomorphic with their plant needs. People need rest, so plants must too. This is false as well. Light means growth. Scientifically. Although 18/6 will shock your plants less when you switch to 12/12, it's a personal choice whether you would rather sacrifice a little growth for a quicker adjustment or less photo confusion. If you want to save money or energy that's
a personal choice too. Do what you need to do to make your growing scenario work.
 

green_nobody

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Most green plants are classified as either C3 or C4 which represents how carbon(C) is used during photosynthesis.

C4 plants temporarily store carbon dioxide(CO2) over the dark period to use for photosynthesis during the day. C4 plants slow down photosynthesis once the stored CO2 is used up and they need to gather it from the air. Which is why trees slow down photosynthesis in the afternoon even though the sun is still bright. This does NOT apply to cannabis.

C3 plants(cannabis/veggies) gather CO2 only during the light period when they are photosynthesizing. During the dark period these plants only use oxygen for their metabolic life processes. They don't uptake CO2, nor do they use it. As soon and as long as the light is on, C3 plants gather and use CO2 for photosynthesis.

C3 plants also have the ability to use higher concentrations of CO2 than what is found in the air. If the light is bright enough and the plants have sufficient nutes, their growth rate will accelerate from it(2000ppm vs. 400ppm of CO2), which increases yield. They can do this continuously, wihtout a dark period throughout the vegetative stage.

The dark reaction is a process of photosynthesis that takes place in both darkness and light. It uses ATP and NADPH molecules that hold energy absorbed from light to break apart CO2 into it's base components. Because it's called a dark reaction and can occur in the dark, some people(Jorge) have said darkness is needed for this to occur. This Is Not So.

Again people get anthropomorphic with their plant needs. People need rest, so plants must too. This is false as well. Light means growth. Scientifically. Although 18/6 will shock your plants less when you switch to 12/12, it's a personal choice whether you would rather sacrifice a little growth for a quicker adjustment or less photo confusion. If you want to save money or energy that's
a personal choice too. Do what you need to do to make your growing scenario work.

on moment please, you stated yourself that cannabis is a C3 plat which is right, now if you don't leave your plant some time to use the stored CO2, what you think it will do with it???:roll:

plants need a dark cycle to use up the CO2 they gained thru light cycle;) they use it with O2 to grow:D and they only go for O2 if light are out;)
 

Erb

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C3 plants(cannabis/veggies) gather CO2 only during the light period when they are photosynthesizing. During the dark period these plants only use oxygen for their metabolic life processes. They don't uptake CO2, nor do they use it. As soon and as long as the light is on, C3 plants gather and use CO2 for photosynthesis.

C3 plants also have the ability to use higher concentrations of CO2 than what is found in the air. If the light is bright enough and the plants have sufficient nutes, their growth rate will accelerate from it(2000ppm vs. 400ppm of CO2), which increases yield. They can do this continuously, without a dark period throughout the vegetative stage.

The dark reaction is a process of photosynthesis that takes place in both darkness and light. It uses ATP and NADPH molecules that hold energy absorbed from light to break apart CO2 into it's base components. Because it's called a dark reaction and can occur in the dark, some people(green_nobody) have said darkness is needed for this to occur. This Is Not So.
 
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