LOL,is this guy serious?

CalyxCrusher

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http://www.thetelegram.com/News/Local/2016-02-27/article-4444880/Consequences-come-with-legalization/1

Consequences come with legalization

Andrew Robinson
Published on February 27, 2016




Published on February 23, 2016

Submitted photo courtesy RCMP
The impending legalization of marijuana will not come without some costs according to a local addictions expert.


Jeff Bourne knows a thing or two about the trouble caused by addiction.


An admitted addict now several years sober, the executive director of Carbonear’s U-Turn Drop-In Centre has put in a lot of time helping others find ways to overcome battles with drugs and alcohol.

While there are many who might welcome news the federal government is looking to legalize marijuana, Bourne isn’t among them.

“I don’t feel comfortable myself, personally,” the Victoria native told The Compass last week. “Number one, years ago marijuana was taboo. It was bad to be doing it. Now we’ve come to a place in society where it’s acceptable. In 20 years down the road, is cocaine going to be legalized and acceptable?

Bourne says compared to what it was years ago, marijuana is on the verge of being classified as a hallucinogen. That’s due to higher levels of tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) in the drug. According to the Government of Canada’s Healthy Canadians website, studies have found the average level of THC in marijuana has increased by 300 to 400 per cent over the last few decades.

“The stuff that the government grows and puts out there, the THC level isn’t going to be so high,” said Bourne. “So if you go to a corner store and buy it, you’re not going to get your bang for your buck, so you’re going to go and buy it off your buddy down the corner. So the ones that smoke it daily that are used to this high THC level are not going to be the ones buying it from the store when it’s legalized, because they’re not getting their fix.”

Bourne also has concerns about what legalization will mean for youth. He worries that legalization will help create more drug addicts down the road.

Not for public places

Kevin Coady from the Newfoundland and Labrador Alliance for the Control of Tobacco has his own concerns about legalization.

“We’re certainly keenly interested, because we’ve had the battle of trying to get people to realize they can’t light up their cigarettes wherever they feel like it, and they should avoid doing so around young people because of the message it sends. I think it would be the same thing for the marijuana use.”

I’ve been around the rooms of recovery for a while, and I came across people that lost their jobs, their houses, their families — the whole nine yards — just because of a draw of marijuana. That’s the only drug they did, but they lost everything they had.

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Coady, the organization’s executive director, expects there will be a need for programs to help those who find themselves needing to eliminate marijuana from their lives, just as there are smoking cessation services out there for the public. Programs targeting youth will also be necessary, he reckons.

“Our goals for our group include protection, prevention, cessation and denormalization we’d like to be a part of any group or discussion that would prevent young people from ever starting the use of marijuana, and then of course protecting people from the second-hand smoke from the marijuana, same as cigarettes. And the cessation for those who get hooked and want to quit.”

Ultimately, Coady hopes the federal government handles legalization responsibly and appropriately to avoid creating new problems.

“I think they need to do a bit of homework on it, because there’s so much work that has gone into correcting the mistakes of the tobacco activity. It would be terrible if we opened up all those doors again and then have to close them.”

Bourne believes legalization will open up a serious can of worms and leave governments scrambling to deal with the demands placed on addictions services.



I honestly don't even know where to start. I highlighted some real gems............... He pulled out some REAL refer madness ideology with NO facts to back up any of his laughable claims. How does this guy have a fucking job in addictions counseling?

Marijuana has shown that it can be HABIT forming, but in NO WAY is it physiologically addictive the way opioids or alcohol are. You won't get sweats or die due to withdrawal( yes it is possible to die from alcohol withdrawal if you are a die hard alcoholic, Amy Winehouse being a prime example). Also show me the people who lost their lives to ONE drag of Marijuana, show me the names and statistics on that one....oh wait. There aren't any because its NEVER happened.

300 to 400 times stronger? Again, show the proof. Even at the most incorrect and conservative number that weed of yesteryear was at, let's say 1%( it wasn't ever that low, but lets use dumb dumbs logic here) Today's weed would be at, 300-400% THC. Holy fuck boys, talk about progress. Fucken waste of skin this chode is.
 

phil k

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http://www.thetelegram.com/News/Local/2016-02-27/article-4444880/Consequences-come-with-legalization/1

Consequences come with legalization

Andrew Robinson
Published on February 27, 2016




Published on February 23, 2016

Submitted photo courtesy RCMP
The impending legalization of marijuana will not come without some costs according to a local addictions expert.


Jeff Bourne knows a thing or two about the trouble caused by addiction.


An admitted addict now several years sober, the executive director of Carbonear’s U-Turn Drop-In Centre has put in a lot of time helping others find ways to overcome battles with drugs and alcohol.

While there are many who might welcome news the federal government is looking to legalize marijuana, Bourne isn’t among them.

“I don’t feel comfortable myself, personally,” the Victoria native told The Compass last week. “Number one, years ago marijuana was taboo. It was bad to be doing it. Now we’ve come to a place in society where it’s acceptable. In 20 years down the road, is cocaine going to be legalized and acceptable?

Bourne says compared to what it was years ago, marijuana is on the verge of being classified as a hallucinogen. That’s due to higher levels of tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) in the drug. According to the Government of Canada’s Healthy Canadians website, studies have found the average level of THC in marijuana has increased by 300 to 400 per cent over the last few decades.

“The stuff that the government grows and puts out there, the THC level isn’t going to be so high,” said Bourne. “So if you go to a corner store and buy it, you’re not going to get your bang for your buck, so you’re going to go and buy it off your buddy down the corner. So the ones that smoke it daily that are used to this high THC level are not going to be the ones buying it from the store when it’s legalized, because they’re not getting their fix.”

Bourne also has concerns about what legalization will mean for youth. He worries that legalization will help create more drug addicts down the road.

Not for public places

Kevin Coady from the Newfoundland and Labrador Alliance for the Control of Tobacco has his own concerns about legalization.

“We’re certainly keenly interested, because we’ve had the battle of trying to get people to realize they can’t light up their cigarettes wherever they feel like it, and they should avoid doing so around young people because of the message it sends. I think it would be the same thing for the marijuana use.”

I’ve been around the rooms of recovery for a while, and I came across people that lost their jobs, their houses, their families — the whole nine yards — just because of a draw of marijuana. That’s the only drug they did, but they lost everything they had.

SEE RELATED:

'NAPE likes marijuana's smell'

Coady, the organization’s executive director, expects there will be a need for programs to help those who find themselves needing to eliminate marijuana from their lives, just as there are smoking cessation services out there for the public. Programs targeting youth will also be necessary, he reckons.

“Our goals for our group include protection, prevention, cessation and denormalization we’d like to be a part of any group or discussion that would prevent young people from ever starting the use of marijuana, and then of course protecting people from the second-hand smoke from the marijuana, same as cigarettes. And the cessation for those who get hooked and want to quit.”

Ultimately, Coady hopes the federal government handles legalization responsibly and appropriately to avoid creating new problems.

“I think they need to do a bit of homework on it, because there’s so much work that has gone into correcting the mistakes of the tobacco activity. It would be terrible if we opened up all those doors again and then have to close them.”

Bourne believes legalization will open up a serious can of worms and leave governments scrambling to deal with the demands placed on addictions services.



I honestly don't even know where to start. I highlighted some real gems............... He pulled out some REAL refer madness ideology with NO facts to back up any of his laughable claims. How does this guy have a fucking job in addictions counseling?

Marijuana has shown that it can be HABIT forming, but in NO WAY is it physiologically addictive the way opioids or alcohol are. You won't get sweats or die due to withdrawal( yes it is possible to die from alcohol withdrawal if you are a die hard alcoholic, Amy Winehouse being a prime example). Also show me the people who lost their lives to ONE drag of Marijuana, show me the names and statistics on that one....oh wait. There aren't any because its NEVER happened.

300 to 400 times stronger? Again, show the proof. Even at the most incorrect and conservative number that weed of yesteryear was at, let's say 1%( it wasn't ever that low, but lets use dumb dumbs logic here) Today's weed would be at, 300-400% THC. Holy fuck boys, talk about progress. Fucken waste of skin this chode is.
oh we've heard that insanity here in the states since legalization started..all these false statements are never confronted because they make good news.
 

cannadan

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there is always someone who takes this approach...marijuana addict...in my experience is someone who wants to blame all their social behaviors on something other than themselves....
 

torontoke

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I would just love to know what exactly they were tasting 30 years ago? If it's 300 to 400 times more thc now and most strains are in the 12-20% range than I guess that means they were testing soil and root ball samples.
 

Olive Drab Green

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I would just love to know what exactly they were tasting 30 years ago? If it's 300 to 400 times more thc now and most strains are in the 12-20% range than I guess that means they were testing soil and root ball samples.
5-10% was the max in the 90s, I believe. Up until the 2000s, when we started pushing that.
 

OLD MOTHER SATIVA

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THC numbers are not necessarily indicative of potency..

and thc content is just NOT measured the same now as it was..

its the mood altering quality of the thc ..not the thc % that defines how it acts on you..
 

Olive Drab Green

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THC numbers are not necessarily indicative of potency..

and thc content is just NOT measured the same now as it was..

its the mood altering quality of the thc ..not the thc % that defines how it acts on you..
It's a good baseline, really. It is the main psychoactive ingredient. The CBD and such could augment it, but the high initially comes from THC content. But, yeah, you're right otherwise.
 

doingdishes

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i remember Thia stick in the late 80's. there was 12 of us on a doob and we ALL caught a buzz. i will never forget that as that's the first time i saw a bu=d that was about a half p...WOW
i don't think that stuff is even twice a strong.
i remember the first purple indica i ever smoked...that was better than most i get today so i don't believe any of these stories. i think there are better growing practices/methods but whoever was growing those strains knew what they were doing then.
 

Gquebed

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i remember Thia stick in the late 80's. there was 12 of us on a doob and we ALL caught a buzz. i will never forget that as that's the first time i saw a bu=d that was about a half p...WOW
i don't think that stuff is even twice a strong.
i remember the first purple indica i ever smoked...that was better than most i get today so i don't believe any of these stories. i think there are better growing practices/methods but whoever was growing those strains knew what they were doing then.
Loved the thai stick!!

One guy in high school had it all the time... l always had the black gold seal hash... this made us natural best pals...

I would put that sensi thai stick up against anything i have smoked in recent years...

I would say the same for Columbian gold that came around here every once in a while back i the 80s...
 

doingdishes

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Loved the thai stick!!

One guy in high school had it all the time... l always had the black gold seal hash... this made us natural best pals...

I would put that sensi thai stick up against anything i have smoked in recent years...

I would say the same for Columbian gold that came around here every once in a while back i the 80s...
i agree completely.
that gold seal black hash was incredible. it sucks we can't get it anymore. i wonder what happened. i don't think they stopped making it
 
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