lowryder question

im just fuckin around with this, meaning im not tryin to become a professional grower using lowryder. i wanna perfect it on better plants. but i hear that lowryder is so easy to grow that you could just put it under 1 cfl and worst case scenario, get a couple gram, 6 inch tall plant. well i wanna do that. i would occupy my time, let me practice growing, and im not putting in much work. and if i had a 6 inch fully harvested plant, that would just be funny as hell. ill have 1000 of em. seriously. but i wanna know exactly how easy it is. and no matter how small they are ill still get seeds right? as long as i get male and female in the bunch. which one is easiest to grow? can i get some deisel ryder and just not pay attention to it? just certain amount of water a day and make sure i get 4 hours of dark right? anyone experienced in growing different types of lowryder need only respond. thank you.
and ill just be using dirt and cfl lighting, cheapest and easiest possible.

anyone? anyone at all? i wanna start off with 4, then plant 4 more each week, so a total of 40 plants max, i dont care if its male or female, ill either smoke bud or hash. i dont care how big they get, as long as i get some seeds to plant more. if i come out with a gram on a plant, hey i successfully grew one, and its one gram less i gotta buy on the street.
now someone please answer my question.

ok ima use 1 23 watt cfl bulb from seed to harvest. how big you think itll get. all i want is for it to survive. when i get serious about growing, ill use better shit.

I have grown other auto flower varieties but not lowryder, also, DONT GROW LOWRYDER. Go with its much improved brother Lowryder #2.

If your going with 1 cfl... you might scrape by a few grams, but a tiny bit more effort on some better lighting would be def worth it.

50 bucks on a decent CFL and you could be looking at 25-30ish grams. And honestly they are hardy as hell.

ok, so how many watts per plant? i dont know how many watts a 'decent cfl' is.
as long as its as easy to grow as the original lowryder, it doesnt matter. its said that original lowryder can be grown with a few incandescant light bulbs, and get a couple of grams. so id rather go with like diesel ryder or auto ak47, as long as they are just as easy go grow.

http://www.thegrowstore.com/detail.asp?itemnumber=1248

There is a pic of my setup and there is that exact light. Also, look up buddha white dwarf. Its a dwarf autoflowering white widow. That 3rd and 4th pic are my white dwarf at 1 month 1 week and 5 days.

That CFL is rated at 12,000 lumens and 125w. They have both spectrum available.

cool thanks. but i only got a few bucks. thats why i want the 23 watters for now. i could buy one today, scrape up a few bucks tomorrow, and the next day, and ill have 20 bucks by...next week...all the money i make goes straight towards bills. not a dime to my name. and a 23 watt is 5 bucks at cvs, which is in walking distance.

so thats per plant right? i get that one bulb and i can use it for how many plants?

12k lumens, CFL so you can get it close to them, dwarfs are small. With that one you could easily pull off a few, 3-4. But I am really conservative, you could probably scrape by like you wanted and get like 5-6 if you supplement with a few shitty cfls where the light isnt reaching.

well thanks for all your help. just one last question. the auto ak47 is what id like to get. if i get a pack of them, just put 2 under 1 cfl, (til i get more) will i at least get something to smoke and some seeds to replant? i dont care if its two inches and 1 gram, its a start. i want the least power possible to grow a plant. well, for now i just want the seeds really, i guess, if the plant is that small. then im not wasting money on the seeds cause im making more of em.

I have been looking around at strains and you had said you wanted to try either auto ak47 or auto diesel, lmao, I found an auto diesel x ak47 strain.

http://www.cannabis-seeds-bank.co.uk/lowlife-automatic-ak47-x-diesel-new-stock-5320-p.asp

As per your last question, one little cfl or one of the big boys?

i got a 23 watt, and ill probably get another one. so 46 watts total i guess of cfl.
like i said im just fuckin around til i get money to do a serious grow. so if i buy the autoflowering varieties, ill just produce seeds till then. and if its not as easy to grow as the original lowryder or #2, i dont want it yet.

Breeding LR, from what I've read (and a bunch, kinda dig the idea of the plant. Its not for everyone, but fits some perfectly)

lowryder (#1) is ideal to breed with, but kinda cruddy on its own. So LR1xWhite Widow or LR1 x Trainwreck, etc (would that make a 'modeltrain' wreck? )

About 25% of the seeds will actually be autoflowering, so its going to take quite a few rounds to get autoflowering to be the 'norm'

I am growing auto ak47. They are a hardy plant. You could honestly plant into a two gallon container with a bag of Fox Farms Ocean Forest. You would not need any nutes for 3-4 weeks. I do not give mine nutes until they show their sex.

Now, take your 2 gallon pot, put it on a windowsill, outdoors, whatever, and let it grow. (this is NOT what I do, I got a 600W HPS, but your looking for a budget grow, right?)

There you go. Save your five bucks on those cheap bulbs. The plant is going to flower regardless of the light cycle, and your looking for a low maitenance grow. Water when the soil is dry. Thats it, you will get more than 1G this way.

This is the cheapest way you can grow the plant, and not my recommendation. Put a little more time and effort, look at some auto grow journals, and you will have a bigger harvest. Good luck man

sounds good. what if im too lazy or cheap to get the nutes? all i wanna do is put the seed in a pot, put it in my closet, put the light about 2 foot from the plant, nothing fancy, not worried about yeild, just the fact that i get seeds and at least a bowl to smoke. so no nutes, no special shit, not for my first grow. i think itll be fine. i have a non-autoflower(just mid-grade bag seed) under 1 23 watt cfl, and its still growing. i know ill get shitty yeild if it even makes it. it looks like itll make it all the way through veg, granted itll be super small, but if it can do as well as it is, then an autoflower should do better, right?

my whole point is i wanna do it all natural. cant fully do it cause i cant keep it outside (cops, neighbors,) so i just want to use dirt from outside, tap water, and 1 23 watt cfl, for 1 or 2 plants. i want the least amount of light possible for up to 12 plants. light will be 3 foot from the plant so i dont have to move it. next year ill go more advanced, this is just practice.

You could do it that way, but you got to spend 5 bucks on some Miracle Grow soil, that way you do not have to be buying nutes, you should be good for a couple of months, which I figure your probably going to try and harvest in about 3 months. Not going to get super yields, but yeah man, you could do it.

thats all i need thanks dude

might have changed my mind a bit. i want like 20 plants, any autoflowering will do. i just want dirt from outside, half gallon milk jugs, and thats about it. how many cfls should i have for that, minimum and max numbers please. my closet is about 10 sq ft id say, give or take. my goal is, since they autoflower i dont have to change the cycle, and i plant one twice a week so i end up harvesting one twice a week, so if its like an eighth or so thats fine, it can last a half a week, if i have to. so far a got a 42 watt cfl and i need to find a lamp for the 18w. other than that, have to wait to get more.