Lst?

Ho wlong do you typically LSt for? what are the typical ways to do it?

Ok heres the STEPS PICTURE for you to follow along with.



STEP 1 : Grow your plant from Seed or Clone to 3 or 4 leaf sets, some use 5 but i always use 3 because after 3rd leaf set the main stem starts to harden and it will be harder to bend over your plant properly without breaking the main stem.

STEP 2 : Using a metal hook (i cut small sections of cloths hanger and bend a U shape at the end as a hook) bend over your plant with metal hook at the last internode (space between the last set of fanleafs and the next to last) and stick the metal hook into your dirt to hold down the stem.

STEP 3 : This is really not a step, just waiting time... Take note of how the top of the plant that was bent down will bend back upwards towards the light, this could take anywhere from 3 hours to 1 day. Under my 1000 Watt Metal Halide light it does it in under 3 hours.

STEP 4 : Veg and dont tie down until you have a new leaf set. You will notice Side branching has started already because good light is getting to the main stem areas next to each fanleaf stem intersection with the main stem.

STEP 5 : Depending on your starting pot size you may have to transplant. If you started out with a large pot, repeat step 2 over and over again holding the main stem down with hooks until you reach the end of the pot. In this illustration to save time and drawings, i started out with a small pot and it reached the end of the pot after the first tiedown. I repotted it into a 10 inch pot which will be my final pot size for this plant in order for me to continue the LST Bends around the inside edge of the pot.

STEP 6 : Now that your new leaf set has formed you have enough length in growth since the first bend(s) to allow you to start bending the stem horizontally around the inside edge of the pot. Use metal hooks again to keep this bend in place. Side branches should be coming along very nicely.

STEP 7 : Continue repeating steps 4 and 6, allowing the plant to grow and then keep tieing it down along the inside edge of pot using metal hooks (or whatever your using) Side branches should be forming and growing up towards the light.

STEP 8 : Continue to repeat step 7 until you are all the way around the pot... when you reach the point where your plant first met the edge of the plant Top the plant (cut off the very top of the plant ) and hold it down horizontally with a metal hook.... During all this time of repeating step 7 you should also be tieing down horizontally the new branches that have formed from the main stem as much as possible until you use up as much space as possible inside the pot as well , the outter branches growing over the outside edge of the pot you can hold down as well with string to keep those tops even with the inner branches.

STEP 9 : After you have used up all possible space inside the pot (or your eggcrate) its time to just let it flower.. This is a side view of how it will and should look by that time with all the side branches growing upwards towards the light.... these will all become Collas unlike a non LST plant will only have one colla.

During flowering and even before due to lack of light on the main stem fan leafs which is all the way to the bottom almost against the soil those fanleafs will die off anyways, i usually cut these off the main stem right after the branch has grown out in that area, keeps things neat down below where you will need good airflow during flowering.. so go ahead and take off any fanleafs coming off the main stem that is going around the inside edge of the pot.

Set your timer to 12/12 and watch it bloom

There is no Step 10 in the picture but we all know what that is

HARVEST!!!


I hope i shed some light on the method of LST and its benefits.

this diagram is the most passed around and simplest to follow, your gonna need more veg time since those normal side branches are going to become your main colas, did this exaclty and need around 8 weeks of veg time, i wound up with 11 main colas at 4ft plant

Awesome illustration and explaination

Thanks
~Boneman

HOW much did you yield of that plant moose

to be honest with you, i loveed the damn plants i LST'd, and after having a side by side in the same room i would rather have 5 nursery flats, 8x5inch pots, totaling 40 plants and half the space, with 2 weeks veg time, lollipop them, and produce the same amount at 10-14 grams per plant, compared to fitting 3 large plants like that, i got 80 grams per plant give or take, plus the strain i lst'd produces thin spear shaped colas, and i lolly'ed a kush which is a heavier producer, denser. after all that i prefer taking clones and have finished products in around 10 weeks, than finish an LST plant in 4 months, both were 8 week flowering strains that i took to 9 weeks

i dont post pix anymore, but this was my last soil grow afew months ago, they are 4 weeks flowering the strains were a kush and white diesle
https://www.rollitup.org/indoor-growing/143148-white-diesle-white-lable-seed.html

another tidbit i have for potential LSTers, i seen many people do it, bit in my opinion, they start too soon, they end up with the main stem way too close to the soil, i am not comfortable with this, too moist down there, especially if you are anything like me with soil, i give a routine flush every month to the point where water appraoches the top of the pot, you dont want to water your plants and have your stem submerged, wait till the plant is a good 12-18 inches tall and start by pinched(softenening the stem) atleast 4-6 inches above soil level and start your LST there, that illustration says you can do it after a couple of nodes, i never experienced stem rot, but i seen dudes have it 2 inches above the soil, not cool

morrisgreenberg said:

to be honest with you, i loveed the damn plants i LST'd, and after having a side by side in the same room i would rather have 5 nursery flats, 8x5inch pots, totaling 40 plants and half the space, with 2 weeks veg time, lollipop them, and produce the same amount at 10-14 grams per plant, compared to fitting 3 large plants like that, i got 80 grams per plant give or take, plus the strain i lst'd produces thin spear shaped colas, and i lolly'ed a kush which is a heavier producer, denser. after all that i prefer taking clones and have finished products in around 10 weeks, than finish an LST plant in 4 months, both were 8 week flowering strains that i took to 9 weeks

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Can you get deeper into the lollipop method or provide a good link? I'm currently using LST & ScrOG on my first grow attempt.

Right now, I have two Indica clones vegging for about 6 weeks and 2 ChemD's clones vegging for 5 weeks. I also have 2 more indica clones that have been LST'ing in veg for about 4 weeks. I can easily veg the older plants for another 2-4 weeks, at least. But many say that clones are supposed to be flowered early, given they aren't immature plants (seeded). They are clones of a mature plant, so you should be able to harvest quicker using clones. I presume vegging time for clones depends on how much yield is desired. Because this is my first grow, I'm flowering starting tomorrow (6 week veg maximum). I'll continue vegging the smaller 4 week clones to 7 weeks before moving them to flower. They are already LST'ing nicely.

I want to try lollipopping, so any more info would be appreciated.

My journal...
https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/185135-first-timer-closet-grow-cfls.html

i have never done a scrog, but i am very familiar, although you will pull it off, you could have used just one of your plants there, its a small screen, but you wont have to wait long to start flowering heres a link for lollipopping. about the clones, i guess it would take a while to get a seedling to the size of a clone, but its what you want to do with the clone, some like to grow out giants and some like to gather a few dozen clones, and lolly them up, the beauty about more clones is you get no vegg time, just need a bunch, you can get yourself a harvest every 8 weeks

page 2 of that thread i just posted is a great example of a Lp - SOG

is lollipopping the same as supercropping?? does this make sense, iwas going to fim then lst for a few weks then fim again, grow my girls for two months and supercrop them when they tun a foot tall. is this to much strees on the plant??r

i wouldnt think its too much stress, the whole difference with what your doing and LST fimming, is bunching more plants in one area, little to no veg time, straight to flower to achieve the same yield a few larger longer vegged plants would do, like i said i have done both and would recommend a lolypop -sog set up