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S'Manta

S'Manta

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FresnoFarmer said:
It's probably earwigs eating your roots bro. I had plants wilting like that, for what appeared to be no reason, one year in my vegetable bed. I had grubs AND earwigs in my soil fuckin shit up. Over watering will make the leaves droop but not be soft in my experience. The leaves will feel firm, but still droop. Underwatering causes soft leaves and drooping in my experience. I used half full buried beer cans and sevin dust around the plants to get rid of them. They are back this year. I am trying neem to deter them until my shipment of spinosad concentrate gets here. I don't like using sevin dust anymore because it kills beneficial insects, and I'm sure it aint good for my frogs and lizards. I hear spinosad sprays will work on earwigs. But that only works if they are eating your plants foliage. I think they have a spinosad granular bait for earwigs in the root zone. I have heard it works as well.

Overwatering isn't how much you use while watering, it is more of how frequently you water. If you water quite frequently this will make a perfect home for earwigs and other pests. I run lots of water through my pots when watering and even more in the ground. But I let the soil dry out between waterings.
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FF, I'm watering everyday. My pots are 5 gal and 15 gal. Its supposed to be 105°, today......mhz, thanks for the earwig info. They scare the crap out of me. Shiver‼
 
veggiegardener

veggiegardener

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The burned leaves probably came from a slight overfertizing or an overly potent foliar feeding. NEVER put that much work into an unsexed plant. About six years ago, a plant fooled me by showing few pistils. I put it with all the other 'females'. About the first of August, it was the largest plant in my 'cage', covering about thirty square feet. It was covered in balls. It filled a 45 gallon garbage can.

You might look up my grow threads. There's a lot of info in them.
 
BWG707

BWG707

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It's very, very hard to overwater in ground plants, especially in a hot climate. Also a hot climate combined with windy conditions will dry your plants up extremely fast. I've used up to 5 gal. a day on inground plants. It depends on the plants the soil the heat the wind...
 
mhz

mhz

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The winner is over-fertitlizing. I went out today and FIM'd the fried top.

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After:

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I'm guessing this is proof of over-fertilizing: I split the fresh cutting in half and found a white percipitate in the xylem, meaning water was incapable to reach that top, causing it to droop and crisp in the sun.

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BustinScales510

BustinScales510

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BcDigger said:
Yes plants close their stomata during high temperatures in an attempt to conserve water. Here is a link to explain how plants move and use water and sugars, and how temperature can affect transpiration of the plant. http://www.cannabis.info/USA/library/4161-the-vascular-system-of-cannabis-plants/
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That article didnt mention anything about specific temperatures. I was just asking because 77 seemed like a low temp for plants to go dormant, as there are plenty of grows in warm areas where the majority of the day is over 77 degrees and plants still grow.
 
BcDigger

BcDigger

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BustinScales510 said:
That article didnt mention anything about specific temperatures. I was just asking because 77 seemed like a low temp for plants to go dormant, as there are plenty of grows in warm areas where the majority of the day is over 77 degrees and plants still grow.
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ya now that you mention it 77 seems kinda low. i use celcius and wasnt really thinking about exact temps. ive just read numerous times that stomata close in high temperatures. usually around 29 degrees celcius from what ive read. i dont think it really goes dormant, just that growth and nutrient uptake is slowed.
 
veggiegardener

veggiegardener

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My greenhouses sometimes reach nearly 140 degrees. I run fans to keep dry outside air moving quickly through the foliage. The plants grow like hell. Cannabis has a long history of being grown by desert dwellers. Equatorial sativas and indicas from the middle east seem to enjoy a hot dry environment, as long as water is adequate.
 
ruby fruit

ruby fruit

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BcDigger said:
ya now that you mention it 77 seems kinda low. i use celcius and wasnt really thinking about exact temps. ive just read numerous times that stomata close in high temperatures. usually around 29 degrees celcius from what ive read. i dont think it really goes dormant, just that growth and nutrient uptake is slowed.
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providing you have the water uptake ok in feeding plants don't stop growing...in Australia in the area where I live it gets regular 112 temp days which is around 44 degrees celcius we average between 36-48 the hottest two months of the year and the plants never stop growing at all
 
ruby fruit

ruby fruit

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coolest temp for me?our summer might have a few days around 24c and 16c night at the minimum but no longer than 3 days in a row.Ive never tried during winter
 
abe supercro

abe supercro

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lots of water w low low nutes for weeks after transplant. shade for bit to lower stress, haven't read any other thread details so no fee will apply.

way to autopsy, not so sure about conclusions.
 
mhz

mhz

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@abe supercro You are right: the plant was frying the fan leaves to promote secondary and tertiary growth.

Here is a shot of that new growth.
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The plant has 15 tops and is LST'd down: Spreading out really nicely.

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Main Hub

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LST'd super close to the ground

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It has badass fucking fan leaves!

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abe supercro

abe supercro

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really like how low you have that scrog happening!
might have some wicked sativa w those slender leaves..

how about telling us about that beverage that you made, is that herb tea?
 
mhz

mhz

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Thanks! That plant is sprawling the floor like a water melon.
So that beverage is a floral tea (one component of my feeding regiment,) made from these bud flowers (both fresh and dried.)

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I mix it into a guano/cow/green manure tea with 5 tablespoons of corn syrup, and a scoop of wood ash. I feed the plants after they get 10 gallons of h20.
 
mhz

mhz

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She's bushing out nicely!

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The newest addition to the group: I got two afghan clones from my bro-in-law, sadly one got root rot and doesn't seem like it's going to make it, but here is the one that is thriving.

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