The's plants wear 4feet when put out side june 1. Thay wear started under two 600watt mh. In February. All seed plants besides the mob. Started them with genral organics dirt. Camo bag. Worm castings and gereal orgaincs. Ferts. The kit. Than we had to move in to are new house in April. Than came june. We. Dug holes big a nuff to fit 55gal drums flush with ground. We used the 55 gal drum as a guied. Of how deep i wanted the holes and wide. Than holes got filled with. Half worm castings and half potting soils.my own. I mix. No vegging ferts wear used just buding now that im in to flowering. I'm using fox farm. Tiger bloom. And. Bigbloom.