I had a similir problem ppl said that that plants have like some type of hormone that triggers to flower or veg and it has to be a cosistent period to trigger the hormone to flower or veg a flick of light or a few extra hours wouldnt hurt unless its constint. Like to make hermis or seeds ppl dont flick it once to start having seeds they have to do it for a few days even turning veg to flower it takes about a week to turn the hormones to flower just go back to the regular scudule you shold be fine good luck.
MARIJUANANATION IS BACK SOIL And A Perpetual Attitude
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marijuananation
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So my timer messed up last night, it never shut off, so they get an extra 24 hrs of straight light, hopefully no biggie..
I deleted the earlier post explaining this..
DON2009, I kinka figured that it wouldn't be a big deal. Cheers !!
Ohh well nothing was open today that sold a decent enough timer (wattage + multi-Plug in wise) and I don't want to have 5 timers runnin with a bunch of cords.
How unsafe would that be !
I will go buy another timer tomorrow when everything is open.
Last night I bought a 10000 BTU air conditioner from a guy off of craigslist, because I want to have unique looking buds.
So I will simply spent $30 for an air conditioner and lower my temps, installed it and already my plants are turning purple. (see the pictures)
Well I took some more pictures of the ladies for you guys.
I took them from out of the grow area so all of you can see just how sugary they are.
I am going to start adding Blackstrap Molasses to the nutrients on the next feeding.
But I am only going to do this to a few of the plants to see if there is an increase in anything.
I have only heard good things about Blackstrap Molasses, so lets see if this stuff works wonders like alot of growers claim it does.
I will mark each individual plant that I feed with blackstrap molasses, and I will share the results with you.
It will be a mix of plants from under both lights, most likely each plant opposite from the other will recieve the Blackstrap Molasses mixed in there nutrients, while the other will simply recieve Advanced Nutrients, Iguana Juice Bloom.
Stay tuned for more action.
Enjoy the Pictures, I know you will....
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I deleted the earlier post explaining this..
DON2009, I kinka figured that it wouldn't be a big deal. Cheers !!
Ohh well nothing was open today that sold a decent enough timer (wattage + multi-Plug in wise) and I don't want to have 5 timers runnin with a bunch of cords.
How unsafe would that be !
I will go buy another timer tomorrow when everything is open.
Last night I bought a 10000 BTU air conditioner from a guy off of craigslist, because I want to have unique looking buds.
So I will simply spent $30 for an air conditioner and lower my temps, installed it and already my plants are turning purple. (see the pictures)
Well I took some more pictures of the ladies for you guys.
I took them from out of the grow area so all of you can see just how sugary they are.
I am going to start adding Blackstrap Molasses to the nutrients on the next feeding.
But I am only going to do this to a few of the plants to see if there is an increase in anything.
I have only heard good things about Blackstrap Molasses, so lets see if this stuff works wonders like alot of growers claim it does.
I will mark each individual plant that I feed with blackstrap molasses, and I will share the results with you.
It will be a mix of plants from under both lights, most likely each plant opposite from the other will recieve the Blackstrap Molasses mixed in there nutrients, while the other will simply recieve Advanced Nutrients, Iguana Juice Bloom.
Stay tuned for more action.
Enjoy the Pictures, I know you will....
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marijuananation
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So a new friend of mine, that I met last night at dinner just happens to be growing white rhino outdoors from feminized seeds that he purchased from the vancouver seed bank.
upon further conversation he asked me if I wanted some clones.
Even though his White Rhino is in flower I thought I would go and check it out.
So I ended up grabbing 3 good size cuttings from him.
I brought all of my gear to his house for cloning, scissors, rooting gel, jiffy pucks (pre-soaked) lol.
He was like you sure mean business man, I was like yeah I like different strains, so I come prepared.
Here are some pictures of them. Hopefully they will throw roots to become a mother and I will be able to have 3 different strains going on.
Peace and happy growing.
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upon further conversation he asked me if I wanted some clones.
Even though his White Rhino is in flower I thought I would go and check it out.
So I ended up grabbing 3 good size cuttings from him.
I brought all of my gear to his house for cloning, scissors, rooting gel, jiffy pucks (pre-soaked) lol.
He was like you sure mean business man, I was like yeah I like different strains, so I come prepared.
Here are some pictures of them. Hopefully they will throw roots to become a mother and I will be able to have 3 different strains going on.
Peace and happy growing.
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marijuananation
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I actually was smoking some of my herb with him and a group of family after thanksgiving dinner, He asked if I knew where he could pick some of this herb up.
I told him that it is vey unlikely that anyone will have "my" strain. He then caught on to what I actually said "my strain" and said.. you grow your own smoke??
I was like yes I do.. I Hate buying garbage weed and waisting money.
He said isn't that ironic and told me that he is growing some white rhino from the vancouver seed bank. he told me he paid $90 + taxes for 5 feminized seeds.
And our conversation went from there.
onto the topics of cultivation, hydro vs soil, nutrients, ph, strains, legalities.. pretty much anything you can think of that has to do with marijuana.
Then he asked if I wanted some clones of his strain. Obviously I wasn't going to say no to the cannabis cup 2nd place winner..
I am in agreeance with you on the Networking.. I am stoked..
I cant wait for these things to shoot roots..
Peace Bro.
FreeHeeling
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I'm as interested in a good story as I am about people growing. + rep
marijuananation
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Thanks, stop by again.
marijuananation
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I have noticed spidermites on some of my plants that were at the far back, also some of the clones. those little bastards..
There isn't much I can do during flower, So I am just going to have to keep the humidity up in the room, also the temps down.
I'll keep an eye on things over the next few days to make sure there not gettting any worse and remove anything unusual that I see.
I think I am also having some sort of nutrient deficiency or lockout happening, as some of the leaves are starting to turn yellow, but my PH is fine.
I was thinking maby the lights are too close, but they are not burning but praying for more light.
Take a look and please tell me what you guys think might be the problem with these
girls.
IF YOU LOOK CLOSELY YOU CAN SEE LITTLE DOTS UNDER THE LEAVES... THESE ARE SPIDERMITES.. LITTLE BASTARDS !!
THE RE-VEGGED MOTHERS.
SPIDERMITES EVEN ATTACKING MY CLONES:
THE WHITE WIDOW CLONES.
There isn't much I can do during flower, So I am just going to have to keep the humidity up in the room, also the temps down.
I'll keep an eye on things over the next few days to make sure there not gettting any worse and remove anything unusual that I see.
I think I am also having some sort of nutrient deficiency or lockout happening, as some of the leaves are starting to turn yellow, but my PH is fine.
I was thinking maby the lights are too close, but they are not burning but praying for more light.
Take a look and please tell me what you guys think might be the problem with these
girls.
IF YOU LOOK CLOSELY YOU CAN SEE LITTLE DOTS UNDER THE LEAVES... THESE ARE SPIDERMITES.. LITTLE BASTARDS !!
THE RE-VEGGED MOTHERS.
SPIDERMITES EVEN ATTACKING MY CLONES:
THE WHITE WIDOW CLONES.
marijuananation
Well-Known Member
Spider mites definately suck.sorry to hear about the spider mites...
how tall were these sexy ladies before you switched them to 12/12?
keep it up
-K2
This is my first dealing with the little bastards..
The 12 plants in the middle were about 10 inches tall when they went into flower. ( Vegged for one week once the six inch cuttings developed roots which was roughly 14 days) .
The 6 plants on the outside were about 14 inches when they went into flower.( Vegged for two weeks once the six inch cuttings developed roots which was roughly 14 days).
Stop by again, check things out.. hopefully next time you check in the mite problem will be no more.
Peace and Happy Growing.
marijuananation
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So I have decided to remove the shade from my cooltube this morning and just go ahead and change my current grow to a vertical grow..
Just for the mere fact that I feel like lumens are being lost with the shade.
I HOPE THIS WORKS..
Do you think re-positioning my light like this will increase my yield??
Leave feedback please..
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Just for the mere fact that I feel like lumens are being lost with the shade.
I HOPE THIS WORKS..
Do you think re-positioning my light like this will increase my yield??
Leave feedback please..
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marijuananation
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I have been thinking over the past few weeks...
If my clones are clones, of clones of clones of clones... then my strain must be suffering somewhere.. I notice the vigor is not what it was the previous two rounds..
I got the strains in clone forms.. both clones from the same guy who has had the same strains going for a while now (almost 10 years with the same genetics.)
I am going to keep the clone-mothers of these plants (Purple Kush + Hindu Kush) I threw all of the clones into the flower room.
All of the plants seem to be developing a calcium or magnesium defeciency.
It has got to be this Sunshine mix #4 because I never had any of these problems when I was using Pro Mix HP.
What to do... What to do...
I flushed a few of the plants to see if this makes any difference.
I was going to hit them with the grow formula, but I am not too sure if this will help them any.
Maby I will do this to 2 of the plants and see if this makes any difference.
I started to germinate a whole bunch of seeds (32) in some sunshine mix #4 two days ago under the 400 watt HPS.. and already some of them have broke through..
I think that I will just let the mothers grow the next 7 months until spring and throw them outside.. I will have 2 trees or really big hedges in my back yard.
I will take the occasional cutting from them here or there, but I am pretty sure that I am done growing this strain for a while..
Back to the seeds..
They are seeds that I created last year, I crossed my shiskaberry female (from seed) with my friends green crack male (obviously from seed).
My friend was going to throw it out.. I rescued the male and brought him home.
I just put them both in a closet with a timer and the trusty 400 watt HPS light and let them have sexual relations lol.
7 weeks later the seeds were obviously ripe.
So far I am very impresed at how fast some of them germinated and broke through the soil.
My next vertical grow will hopefully consist of 2 x 600 watt HPS and either shelves or tables: making sure everything is the correct distance from the cool tube.
I am however having problems with design.. Space is not the issue..
Here are the issues that I have come up with.
# 1. Height of plants, I already know that bigger plants = more bud. (I want to maximize light effeciency here not grow trees in my house)
# 2. Number of plants for best yield ?
# 3. Shape, octagon or square ?
# 4. Pot size, for maximum space and effeciency.
I will be vegging them for 6 weeks minimum before they go in the flower room..
I have to harvest everything from that room and clean it to prevent another run of spider mites also I have to design the room before I put anymore plants in that room.
The last harvest from that room will be in 6 weeks.
I have been looking at alot of vertical grows lately.
I am very impressed at what I have seen 90% of the vertical grows..
The Best one is here: https://www.rollitup.org/grow-room-design-setup/41222-vertical-2-000watts-6lbs.html
He managed to get 5lbs from 48 plants in a 8x8x8 area and 2000 watts of HPS
If I could get one pound I would be happy..
I think that I will be greatly suprised at how the seeds yield will be.
Considering that I have been growing clones for quite a bit now and the yield is always less for some reason from a clone,
that is depending on how long you veg for I guess.
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If my clones are clones, of clones of clones of clones... then my strain must be suffering somewhere.. I notice the vigor is not what it was the previous two rounds..
I got the strains in clone forms.. both clones from the same guy who has had the same strains going for a while now (almost 10 years with the same genetics.)
I am going to keep the clone-mothers of these plants (Purple Kush + Hindu Kush) I threw all of the clones into the flower room.
All of the plants seem to be developing a calcium or magnesium defeciency.
It has got to be this Sunshine mix #4 because I never had any of these problems when I was using Pro Mix HP.
What to do... What to do...
I flushed a few of the plants to see if this makes any difference.
I was going to hit them with the grow formula, but I am not too sure if this will help them any.
Maby I will do this to 2 of the plants and see if this makes any difference.
I started to germinate a whole bunch of seeds (32) in some sunshine mix #4 two days ago under the 400 watt HPS.. and already some of them have broke through..
I think that I will just let the mothers grow the next 7 months until spring and throw them outside.. I will have 2 trees or really big hedges in my back yard.
I will take the occasional cutting from them here or there, but I am pretty sure that I am done growing this strain for a while..
Back to the seeds..
They are seeds that I created last year, I crossed my shiskaberry female (from seed) with my friends green crack male (obviously from seed).
My friend was going to throw it out.. I rescued the male and brought him home.
I just put them both in a closet with a timer and the trusty 400 watt HPS light and let them have sexual relations lol.
7 weeks later the seeds were obviously ripe.
So far I am very impresed at how fast some of them germinated and broke through the soil.
My next vertical grow will hopefully consist of 2 x 600 watt HPS and either shelves or tables: making sure everything is the correct distance from the cool tube.
I am however having problems with design.. Space is not the issue..
Here are the issues that I have come up with.
# 1. Height of plants, I already know that bigger plants = more bud. (I want to maximize light effeciency here not grow trees in my house)
# 2. Number of plants for best yield ?
# 3. Shape, octagon or square ?
# 4. Pot size, for maximum space and effeciency.
I will be vegging them for 6 weeks minimum before they go in the flower room..
I have to harvest everything from that room and clean it to prevent another run of spider mites also I have to design the room before I put anymore plants in that room.
The last harvest from that room will be in 6 weeks.
I have been looking at alot of vertical grows lately.
I am very impressed at what I have seen 90% of the vertical grows..
The Best one is here: https://www.rollitup.org/grow-room-design-setup/41222-vertical-2-000watts-6lbs.html
He managed to get 5lbs from 48 plants in a 8x8x8 area and 2000 watts of HPS
If I could get one pound I would be happy..
I think that I will be greatly suprised at how the seeds yield will be.
Considering that I have been growing clones for quite a bit now and the yield is always less for some reason from a clone,
that is depending on how long you veg for I guess.
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k2daalvin
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sweet..
duuude, you just made me read 23 pages of an info-less grow journal.. i was cheated..
good inspiration.. but i would put the hood back on, with the light directly over them..
you could maybe lst to increase yield, i dont exactly agree with vertical grow methods..
then again, ive never tried it..
-K2
duuude, you just made me read 23 pages of an info-less grow journal.. i was cheated..
good inspiration.. but i would put the hood back on, with the light directly over them..
you could maybe lst to increase yield, i dont exactly agree with vertical grow methods..
then again, ive never tried it..
-K2
I agree the plants look better with the light over them.sweet..
duuude, you just made me read 23 pages of an info-less grow journal.. i was cheated..
good inspiration.. but i would put the hood back on, with the light directly over them..
you could maybe lst to increase yield, i dont exactly agree with vertical grow methods..
then again, ive never tried it..
-K2
marijuananation
Well-Known Member
sweet..
duuude, you just made me read 23 pages of an info-less grow journal.. i was cheated..
good inspiration.. but i would put the hood back on, with the light directly over them..
you could maybe lst to increase yield, i dont exactly agree with vertical grow methods..
then again, ive never tried it..
-K2
K2, Sorry about the long read and just making my journal straight confusing.
I have never tried vertical myself either.. this is the first..
The main reason that I decided to place the light in this position was because it didn't seem like the light above the plants was penetrating the canopy enough.
Also, if you look at the pictures from before I changed the light there is uneven light distribution over the canopy.
The left side of the shade was only getting HPS, while the right side of the shade was only getting MH and the center was getting a mixed spectrum of both HPS + MH.
So I figured if I were to re-position the lights it would give me an over all better balanced spectrum.
Simply due to the fact that the plants would be recieving equal ammounts of HPS + MH light with a vertical light and no shade.
I figured the plants would respond better to the lights in the vertical position.
k2daalvin
Well-Known Member
i cant see the plants NOT getting both spectrums of light in its previous position above the plants..
I'm interested in how this will turn out.. I'm sure it will be awesome either way either lighting method you choose..
its all about the experience and experimentation...
keep it up
-K2
marijuananation
Well-Known Member
Thanks k2.