Massive DEA raids planned for Humboldt

GrowRebel

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[URL="http://humboldtherald.wordpress.com/2008/06/17/massive-dea-raids-planned-for-humboldt/"]Massive DEA raids planned for Humboldt[/url]
The Federal Drug Enforcement Agency is sending 200 agents to Northern Humboldt to crack down on marijuana growers, according to sources. The full-blown bust-a-thon will take place June 22-30. 300 houses have already been targeted by way of high electric bills. Perhaps our readers at PG&E can tell us to how the feds got those records. Did they use warrants or just ask nicely?


Gotta stop this plant ... it make too many people think about the wrong things ... mostly liberal thoughts ... can't have that ... :spew:
 

LoudBlunts

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man i've been reading blogs articles all kindas shit since you've posted this


if true, shit is going to get crazy!!!
 

We TaRdED

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Lions




Tigers




And




Bears


Oh, my! :lol: But on a more serious note. I think pot is great. Pot is not addictive. I can actually go months(even years) without smoking. I can't say the same thing about the prescription drugs like oxy cottin(which I refuse to use), I have seen too many people get addicted(if not die) to these synthetic heroine drugs.

Marijuana is a plant that mother earth put on the planet for us to enjoy. Herbs are good for us.

Anyways, my point being is that I hope the raiders get what they deserve! I know they are only doing their job, but regardless its these people that enforce the ludicrous marijuana laws. War on drugs = a good thing. War on marijuana = political greed.

Heres some good vids

YouTube - Grow more pot! Part 1
YouTube - Grow more pot! Part 2

These vids allege pot can cure cancer YouTube - RUN FROM THE CURE - The Rick Simpson Story (Part 1 of 7)

YouTube - Hemp For Victory


RON PAUL REVOLUTION

~PEACE~
 

KillerWeed420

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What a crock. Who are they hurting? Sure would be nice if the democratic controlled congress would cut the DEA's budget by about 99.9%
 

stoner408

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i looked it up and even checked the availability of the hotel they are staying at during those days.

no vacancy everything is booked.

it says there are staying at the red lion hotel in eureka. between june 22-30th
 

We TaRdED

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What a crock. Who are they hurting? Sure would be nice if the democratic controlled congress would cut the DEA's budget by about 99.9%
I hear ya. I think some drugs are bad, but I don't consider marijuana a bad drug. So in my honest humble opinion, I believe drugs like coke, heroine, ecstasy, LSD, etc etc should be enforced and cracked down upon. But marijuana is a wonderful plant that was put on this earth for us to enjoy. :blsmoke:

RON PAUL REVOLUTION

~PEACE~
 

medicineman

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Bear traps would be nice, claymores would be better, heck, even a couple of M-60s would work. No-one has the balls to confront them as it is a positive death sentence if caught. The problem with takimg on the government is they will never give up. They hate to lose. Thny'll bring in helicopter gunships and tanks if necessary.
 
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joepro

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Bear traps would be nice, claymores would be better, heck, even a couple of M-60s would work. No-one has the balls to confront them as it is a positive death sentence if caught. The problem with takimg on the government is they will never give up. They hate to lose. Thny'll bring in helicopter gunships and tanks if necessary.
The american government killing americans because the people want freedom: on every youtube, world media, bloggs? No, thats the last thing the government wants.The numbers would grow in anger, countrys would cut off ties, people here would be forced to act.
Let'em kill 10,000 americans on american soil, they would then need to kill 100,000-then a million-10 million.If they kill everyone they lose control
(no one left to control,who does the parasite feed off of then?)
The serves with a smile would be exposed for what it is.

I'm in love with the idea of anarchy to regain control.
 

makinthemagic

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I don't know if these rumors of raids are true or not but I know I saw an article in the NY Times saying some people who had MMJ neighbors thought the law was being pushed a little beyond its intent. If the article is true and the NY Times knows about it, I guarantee the Feds know. I would keep my head up. I wouldn't be surprised if the Feds find someone to make an example of.
 

Florida Girl

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I really hope this isn't true.... what a waste of taxpayer dollars..... hunting down people growing plants! This bullshit has GOT TO STOP!

The only thing these dumb fucks are going to accomplish is cutting short one supply which could in turn drive up the prices of shitty ditch weed coming over the border via illegals.

This war on weed will NEVER be won! People like marijuana and aren't going to stop using it! If anything busting these large growers is just going to encourage more people to grow their own. So instead of having 200 large grow ops in a state there are going to be 2 million small home growers.

Sadly I don't believe either of the "big 2 party" candidates for President will lift 1 finger to decriminalize marijuana!
 

medicineman

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I think they are mainly after the illegal mexicans growing in the national forests and creating environmental wastelands. Of course a few "innocent" pot growers will be caught up in the frenzy, maybe one of you,~LOL~.. I doubt that any liscensed pot growers would recieve any Jailtime, just the confiscation of their hard labor and a fine. This may be good grounds for a supreme court case. Hopefully it will wait untill Obama replaces a couple of Judges.
 
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joepro

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you all will be Ed Rosenthals soon..........
a federal jury in California convicted Ed Rosenthal of marijuana cultivation and conspiracy charges. Rosenthal will now face a minimum of five years behind bars for his actions. Theoretically, he could even be sentenced to life imprisonment.
People are convicted of drug offenses every day, of course. But several factors distinguished this case from others.
First, Ed Rosenthal grew marijuana for sick and dying patients. Second, Rosenthal acted as an agent of Oakland, California's program to dispense marijuana to people whose doctors have prescribed it. Third, California's Proposition 215 expressly authorized the program.
At Rosenthal's trial, the defense sought to tell the jury these facts, but the judge ruled them inadmissible. As a result, Rosenthal was convicted by a jury whose members believed he was an ordinary marijuana grower.
Following the verdict, upon learning the truth, several jurors called for a new trial. Horrified by what they had done, they felt they had been misled into making a terrible mistake.
A Supreme Court Ruling Says Even Medical Marijuana Violates Federal Law
In a previous column, I argued that providing relief to suffering patients should qualify as a common law defense to federal drug charges. In an opinion by Justice Thomas in the case of United States v. Oakland Cannabis Buyers Cooperative, however, the U.S. Supreme Court rejected such arguments.
In that case, a cooperative that dispensed marijuana to sick people was seeking a declaratory judgment stating that their activities were legal. Though they lost the case, no one was sent to prison.
The decision, however, brought the war on drugs to a new front. A battle that was once waged on unscrupulous dealers would now come to those attempting to alleviate the agony of extremely and terminally ill individuals.
Because marijuana can combat nausea, it is an invaluable treatment for AIDS sufferers losing dangerous amounts of weight, and for cancer patients experiencing nausea induced by chemotherapy. After the Supreme Court's decision in Oakland Cannabis Buyers Cooperative, helping such people could trigger federal prosecution.
Expecting Federal Prosecutors To Look the Other Way
Warned that their activities violated federal law, California officials and citizens - including Ed Rosenthal - nonetheless persisted in doing what they thought was right. Perhaps they reasoned that even if federal narcotics laws technically prohibited what they were doing, they could count on the Justice Department to exercise its discretion wisely.
They might have hoped that, having made its point that the laws indeed apply, the Department would still use its resources to go after the kind of drug-dealing that can blight neighborhoods and go hand in hand with violence.
Rosenthal, after all, did not participate in the global drug trade, either by buying drugs of unknown origin from dealers or by selling them to the general population. Moreover, because his actions were regulated, like the actions of the alcohol industry after the end of Prohibition, they were not linked to the violence and mayhem of illegal drug trafficking.
In trusting federal prosecutors to leave them alone, however, Ed Rosenthal and others made a serious miscalculation.
Federal Supremacy: Here and Elsewhere
Rather than look the other way, Attorney General Ashcroft and his Justice Department have chosen to pursue Ed Rosenthal for openly flouting the dictates of federal law. Under the Constitution's Supremacy Clause, federal law trumps state law whenever the two conflict.
For the federal government to insist that all citizens in every state adhere to federal law is not inherently objectionable. Many states, for example, disagreed with the U.S. Supreme Court's view of segregation in Brown v. Board of Ed. Indeed, the phrase "state's rights" became a synonym for racism and segregation in part because states took the position that integration was a bad idea, regardless of how loudly a group of tyrannical federal judges insisted otherwise.
Most of us think, however, that when segregationists stood behind their beliefs with massive resistance, the federal government acted appropriately in crushing that resistance. It was doing what was necessary to ensure that African-American children could safely attend the same public schools as their white counterparts.
The merits of the underlying dispute are therefore an inescapable part of any condemnation of the Rosenthal prosecution.
Hypocrisy
Attorney General Ashcroft is nonetheless an easy target. He heads the Justice Department of an Administration that claims to value the sovereignty of states as well as the states' ability to embrace priorities that are distinct from those of the national government. In fact, the man who selected Ashcroft would not be in office were it not for an electoral approach that subordinates the will of the majority of the populace to the will of a group that more closely approximates the wishes of the states.
When Ashcroft and the Bush Administration do not like what the states are doing, however, then their skepticism about federal supremacy seems to undergo a transformation. If California believes in medical marijuana, then California must be beaten into submission. Even if one does not accept the notion of a state's "right," one can still point a finger at those who do and who nonetheless go ahead and violate that putative right.
There's only so far the hypocrisy point can take us, however. Just because Ashcroft may be a hypocrite does not make the prosecution of Ed Rosenthal wrong. At best, it deprives Ashcroft of the moral standing to pursue it, leaving open the question of what a more principled attorney general ought to have done.
Beyond the Merits
There is something very troubling about the prosecution of Rosenthal, above and beyond the merits of the argument for a medical marijuana exception to narcotics laws.
Consider a similar but fictional set of facts. Suppose that Compassionate Carl decides to grow marijuana for sick people in New Jersey because he believes that both federal and state laws are wrong.
Carl feels strongly about what he does, just like Ed Rosenthal did, but Carl has no official authorization for his mission. In pursuing his agenda, however just and right, he engages in civil disobedience with his eyes open. He is as likely as any other drug-dealer to be charged with a crime.
State or federal prosecutors could decide to go after Carl under such circumstances, because he chooses to disobey laws of which he disapproves. A person like Carl might be willing to disregard other laws as well, and such a person therefore poses a risk of general lawlessness. In addition, if Carl gets away with his crime, then others may infer that one need only obey laws of which one approves.
Legal regulation works as a communal instrument of social control only if it compels compliance independent of any individual's views.
The next civil disobedient to follow in Carl's footsteps, then, might choose a far less controversial set of prohibitions to violate, perhaps because he and others have developed contempt for law. There is thus something to be said for following the rules, even when a person is not a fan of a particular statute.
Ed Rosenthal, however, did not simply choose to disobey the law. State officials specifically granted him permission to cultivate marijuana. In other words, whatever civil disobedience occurred was joined by the government of the state and the municipality, which might thus have appeared prepared to shield the individual from the wrath of the federal government.
What About Segregation?
If we go back to the case of massive resistance to desegregation, we have another example of federal lawbreaking assisted by state officials. In spite of the states' involvement, however, most of us would not feel that the federal government was wrong to intervene. In fact, federal intervention became the only hope of children seeking equality in the classroom.
Does the analogy to segregationists' massive resistance make the official recognition of Ed Rosenthal in California irrelevant? No. It only proves that if people are fighting for racial segregation, then they are engaged in activities that are so clearly wrong that the fight is benighted, regardless of who joins in. The fight against racial integration reflected and reinforced white supremacy.
Unlike the segregationists, the state of California and the selected official medicinal marijuana-growers in that state are engaged in something whose worthiness of condemnation is far less clear. Even people who believe that illicit drugs exact a horrific physical and moral cost on their users, would not generally equate provision for medicinal with provision for recreational use.
It All Matters - Merits, Hypocrisy, and State Sanction
In considering the Rosenthal conviction, then, a number of factors turn out to be significant. First is the nature of the defendant's actions. Ed Rosenthal grew marijuana to relieve the suffering of sick people, and he harmed no one in the process. Second is the fact that he went to great lengths to ensure that his actions conformed to the law of California, by obtaining official authorization. And finally, the Administration that chose to prosecute Rosenthal was guilty, in so doing, of hypocrisy.
Because California is not alone in singling out the medical use of marijuana for protection, the Justice Department has apparently decided to make an example of Ed Rosenthal. He is dangerous because he dissents from the Attorney General's position.
Whether the issue is medicinal marijuana, our failure to execute enough people in the Northeast, or the legalization of physician-assisted suicide in Oregon, it seems, Ashcroft considers dissenters to be enemies of the State (or at least, of the federal government).
 
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