Meth Questions.

high|hgih

Well-Known Member
Well I've just seen people smoke it I never have, but I do remember the pipe crackling. Maybe the liquid after the melting was just bubbling? That could've been what the noise was lol sorry for the misunderstanding
 
Doesn't matter. I'm just curious if the quality of the substance has anything to do with that phenomenon, as I've never been witness.
 

Dj1209

Well-Known Member
meth/amphetamine
One of them is better than the other lol if you really want speed just go for the amphetamines its a much happier euphoric feeling where as meth is worthless and shouldn't be taken.. Besides the sound that you hear when the cystals are crackling in the pipe is just bone chilling and gross.. And the taste.. The smoke just looks evil.. Like I said if you want hard and fun get some heroin or morphine. Hell cokes fun too just be careful with those
Or you could just not do dumb drugs that have the potential to ruin your life and every one that's close to you, why even take the chance to get fucked up? Sell that method and buy some weed its natural and has medicinal values. Just think of what's in that shit you should just go mix everything under your kitchen cabinet and some sudafed together cook it up and put it in the good old method pipe.
 

high|hgih

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Doesn't matter. I'm just curious if the quality of the substance has anything to do with that phenomenon, as I've never been witness.
It might have, the meth made is so impure anyways there is no telling

Or you could just not do dumb drugs that have the potential to ruin your life and every one that's close to you, why even take the chance to get fucked up? Sell that method and buy some weed its natural and has medicinal values. Just think of what's in that shit you should just go mix everything under your kitchen cabinet and some sudafed together cook it up and put it in the good old method pipe.
Amphetamine won't ruin your life dude meth will. Sure it has potential too, but its easier to control, and most people use it in moderation anyways. I used to have to take it every day for ADD because its in vyvance. I loved those things great speed and pretty pure and healthier than meth. I'm just saying if you like speed that is more of the way to go
 

timeismoney1

New Member
No.
Meth will show up differently in urine-tests. Meth is a different drug, it's less healthy also compared to amphetamine.
Amphetamine = Amphetamine.
Meth = d-N-methylamphetamine.
How the hell is meth different than speed? There interchangeable.
 

high|hgih

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I dunno meth and speed gave me relatively the same feeling except there was one difference, meth sucked. I have a paranoid personality anyways, I guess from smoking and meth just raped me lol they are two different drugs though

but yeah I like the changed subject better :D Fried chicken I would kill for some, I have a big fat tombstone pizza in the oven right now :p Yum, summers gonna be the shit I cant wait til it gets a little warmer so I can get back to my gardening anyways :D
 

Swag

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Methamphetamine is just a amphetamine molecule with a Methyl group added to it which causes it to have serotonergic binding affinity along with the normal dopaminergic effects of regular amphetamine if I'm not mistaken. Methamphetamine is also more potent than normal amphetamine. Also your route of administration, purity of the product, and cutting agents in it are all variables to consider of why the meth made you more paranoid. I can attest that I have been on pharmaceutical grade D-Amphetamine and am now on pharmaceutical D-Methamphetamine and for me the Meth really helps get rid of any physical or mental effects from anxiety along with less prominent adverse physical effects (random muscle spasms, minor head pains ect.) . In general I consider it a much "smoother" and "better" drug than regular amphetamine. Of course dopamine is neurotoxic to serotonin so that is one thing it has going against it, IMO. An who ever said that Methamphetamine and amphetamine show up different on UA's is wrong. MDMA (Methylenedioxymethamphetamine) will even show up as positive for amphetamines on a drug screening as well if I'm not mistaken. All their effects basically stem from tweaking one molecule Phenylethylamine, reason why the DOX series are in PiHKAL.
 

Swag

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No not right now, I try to take breaks in between my doses in hope to stop the supposed structural brain changes long term increased dopamine levels can have. I never really believed in the whole ADD/HD thing (naturally lower levels of dopamine in the brain than others) but I've been on the same daily medical dose for a good 2-3 months (Though I just recently switched to Desoxyn but I still take my Dexedrine equivalent dose) now and haven't noticed any real diminishing effects. I still get reduced social anhedonia, increased mental alertness and physical energy, along with a underlying motivation to just live life to its fullest which I never had before in my life. Though I take daily Magnesium supplements in an attempt to keep any possibility of tolerance build up low (whether it really works or not I'm not sure. The info. written on Bluelighter about it were to in-depth for me to coherently follow). Either way amphetamines are proven to cause a deficiency in magnesium which is one of the reasons they can cause heart rhythmic complications.

Regarding ritalin that stuff didn't seem to effect me in the slightest. I was able to dose around the 200mg range and was able to fall asleep easier than when I wasn't on it! Stimulants are a weird category of drugs imo. They will help you at first but than in turn fuck you over in the end with the same help they were giving you (Of course we all know drugs can't have intentions but that is usually how people's addiction to them go). Though with respect to the power they yield and proper personal responsibility with their use (maintaining optimum nutrition and recuperation time i.e. sleep) I think they can help the human body work at 110% efficiency (As long as your not doing them solely for the recreational benefits). Though I'm far from being a PhD so hopefully no one takes my opinion as anything more than just that :lol: .

An of course my occasional needlepoint trips really help me sort everything out. My last one on Saturday which was only with 1 tab was the most ego shattering experience I have had in my life to date. I took a month hiatus before dosing though so I bet that helped :)
 

Swag

Well-Known Member
What is a hot rail?

and does a meth pipe have a carb on the top?
Hot Rail:
the act of snorting a line of crystal meth through the nose by heating up the end of a glass pipe and then opening your mouth to release white smoke (Urban Dictionary)

I'm guessing it depends on the pipe itself but the idea to "smoking" meth is to actually vaporize it not smoke it which would result in the combustion of the product and breakdown of the chemical which I guess would just convert it to inert compounds, though I've never smoked meth so don't quote me on that. I do know however that it is mostly "smoked" in a glass "single rose vase" pipe which are mostly found in gas stations for a few bucks and do not contain carbs.
 

racerboy71

bud bootlegger
Hot Rail:
the act of snorting a line of crystal meth through the nose by heating up the end of a glass pipe and then opening your mouth to release white smoke (Urban Dictionary)

I'm guessing it depends on the pipe itself but the idea to "smoking" meth is to actually vaporize it not smoke it which would result in the combustion of the product and breakdown of the chemical which I guess would just convert it to inert compounds, though I've never smoked meth so don't quote me on that. I do know however that it is mostly "smoked" in a glass "single rose vase" pipe which are mostly found in gas stations for a few bucks and do not contain carbs.
now, ive never smoked meth either, but i always thought that those rose buds glass stem's were more for crack and not so much meth?? atleast that is watt i used to use them for, lol..
i always thought that a tweek pipe was kinda big bulbous looking thing with a mouthpiece attached to it?? kinda hard to explain what i mean.. i'll look for a pic of one..
 

racerboy71

bud bootlegger


this is kinda what i was talking about, and this one even looks like it has a carb.. i didn't think they did, but what do i know about tweak pipes?? nada, lol..
 
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