Million Dollar Question

londonfog

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A large part of the slave trade was based on race though. East Africans are more Arab and tended to be the ones selling black Africans to others.

You don't think an essential component to slavery is the (ridiculous) notion of superiority over the people you enslave?
Oh yes I agree totally with your last statement. It does.
The correction in your first statement would be .again more so religion most of East Africa was Christian or under christian influence or anything other than Islam
Were as your Arabs are mostly Muslim. Color did not matter as much as the religion. Moors will tell you that.
 

Bear420

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Interesting read @Bear420
Would that mean racism is American born ??
And always by a certain group/type of people ?

I dunno, But I would venture to say, Just a part of the Problem world wide, that was just here in the States, I am sure it's been going on since the Caveman day's and some haven't evolved yet.
 

SneekyNinja

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Oh yes I agree totally with your last statement. It does.
The correction in your first statement would be .again more so religion most of East Africa was Christian or under christian influence or anything other than Islam
Were as your Arabs are mostly Muslim. Color did not matter as much as the religion. Moors will tell you that.
Fair point.

It's so multidimensional it's almost impossible to reach an over-arching conclusion but the conversation is an important and interesting one to have :)
 

SneekyNinja

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Egypt was a strange case. Napoleon basically went there and killed the whole governing class.
The Mamluks

The Mamluks were a class of warrior-slaves, mostly of Turkic or Caucasian ethnicity, who served between the 9th and 19th century in the Islamic world. Despite their origins as slaves, the Mamluks often had higher social standing than free-born people. In fact, individual rulers of Mamluk background reigned in various countries, including the famous Mahmud of Ghazni in Afghanistan and India, and every ruler of the Mamluk Sultanate of Egypt and Syria (1250-1517).

https://www.thoughtco.com/who-were-the-mamluks-195371
Leaving behind the people you see as the Egyptians today.... (He claimed to be doing them a favour).


Mamluk girl

http://www.civicegypt.org/?p=53968&paged=2
I will have to plead ignorance, my knowledge of later Egyptian history is admittedly quite limited.
 

UncleBuck

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Apparently none here are well versed in history. Not only whites are racist. Look at slavery throughout history. Many nationalities all throughout history have enslaved other races and nationalities. To limit the discussion to whites only, and the go so far as to say it's impossible for brown, black, yellow, or even red races to exhibit racism is ludicrous.
Stop crying you racist white.
 

schuylaar

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Thank you for your thought out reply.
I see racism as something that was created in the Americas and flourish now world wide. I found it very hard to find a documented account of pure racism before the 17th century ( which we all know is the year of 1600's ). Again we talking racism not slavery.
DO you have an example of an earlier time of skin color deciding the treatment of another ?
wow you're pretty stupid if you think racism was developed in america:wall:
 

Jimdamick

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Did they say invaders or race. To keep everything honest can you supply link to your info. Please show an example were Chinese/Asians as racist. Will help establish dates of racism. Thanks
The Boxer Rebellion, Boxer Uprising or Yihetuan Movement was a violent anti-foreign, anti-colonial, and anti-Christian uprising that took place in China between 1899 and 1901, towards the end of the Qing dynasty. It was initiated by the Militia United in Righteousness (Yihetuan), known in English as the "Boxers", and was motivated by proto-nationalist sentiments and opposition to Western colonialism and associated Christian missionary activity.

The uprising took place against a background of severe drought and the disruption caused by the growth of foreign spheres of influence. After several months of growing violence against both the foreign and Christian presence in Shandong and the North China plain in June 1900, Boxer fighters, convinced they were invulnerable to foreign weapons, converged on Beijingwith the slogan "Support the Qing government and exterminate the foreigners." Foreigners and Chinese Christians sought refuge in the Legation Quarter. In response to reports of an armed invasion to lift the siege, the initially hesitant Empress Dowager Cixi supported the Boxers and on June21 issued an Imperial Decree declaring war on the foreign powers. Diplomats, foreign civilians and soldiers as well as Chinese Christians in the Legation Quarter were placed under siege by the Imperial Army of China and the Boxers for 55 days.

.Sounds pretty racist to me
 

Fogdog

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Crusades were more about dumb as religions. You can be black as fuck ...just claim to be Christian. Moors were dark but they also were Muslims .
how about India's history of exclusion of Dalits? 2000 year old system of exclusion. Dalits as a group definitely have darker skin than Brahmin.
 

londonfog

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I have never commented in the politics section before and that is due to unclebuck. Take your own advice and stop crying you Jewish (by marriage) Supposedly Mexican. You are so full of vitriol and hate you insult everyone. Don't worry you won't see another comment from me in here. Enjoy stewing i n your own hatred you racist,pedophile,misogynist puke.
Damn. @UncleBuck you sure have a talent..lol
guys I think he ran to his room, jump in his bed and cried with the pillow over his head.
 

Unclebaldrick

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Who invented racism and why. Seems like we have been fighting this thing called racism since the establishment of this nation, WHY ??
Looking now at how we have groups of people claiming to be superior over another in the year of 2017, racism seems to be alive and well, be it institutional or ideological ..again WHY ??
Lets discuss
Who invented racism and why ?
Finshaggy. It was just an incompetent mistake.
 

UncleBuck

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I have never commented in the politics section before and that is due to unclebuck. Take your own advice and stop crying you Jewish (by marriage) Supposedly Mexican. You are so full of vitriol and hate you insult everyone. Don't worry you won't see another comment from me in here. Enjoy stewing i n your own hatred you racist,pedophile,misogynist puke.
Bye bye, racist white.
 

londonfog

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how about India's history of exclusion of Dalits? 2000 year old system of exclusion. Dalits as a group definitely have darker skin than Brahmin.
Hmmmm. I would say that is more of a class/caste system. Not all Brahmin are fair skinned. This I no for fact.

 

Fogdog

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Hmmmm. I would say that is more of a class/caste system. Not all Brahmin are fair skinned. This I no for fact.

There is a lot of similarities between US racism and India's caste system. It's nothing like the skin color - based racism in the US. This article says that darker skin pigmentation in Dalits is due to the caste system and how it affects marriage, rather than the caste determined by skin color. Also true that India doesn't have a uniform skin color either by location or by caste.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Skin-colour-tied-to-caste-system-says-
study/articleshow/55532665.cms

You asked for an example. Nothing exact can be found. Yet, here we have an example of a system similar in form and effect to US skin color based racism.

I thought your question was interesting and worth checking in to.
 
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UncleBuck

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I wanted my daughters middle name to be dalit but then the wife found out it is basically a racial slur.
 
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