Minimum "cooking" time

FresnoFarmer

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I added 1 cup Bone meal and like 1/3 cup Blood meal per cf of soil/compost(2 parts Kellog Patio Plus to 1 part leaf compost) how long is the minimum this needs to cook? I would like to plant by july 20.
 

DonPetro

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I added 1 cup Bone meal and like 1/3 cup Blood meal per cf of soil/compost(2 parts Kellog Patio Plus to 1 part leaf compost) how long is the minimum this needs to cook? I would like to plant by july 20.
Thats plenty of time. I usually say two weeks minimum.
 

FresnoFarmer

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Thats plenty of time. I usually say two weeks minimum.
If I turn the pile every 2-3 days would this speed up the cycling, or would it be detrimental? I really want to plant them as soon as possible because I am running out of veg time outdoors. I didn't plan on making my own mix for this batch. I didn't know my soil in this plot had such bad drainage. Would this mediocre soil mix still be hot in 2-3 weeks?
 

DonPetro

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I would only turn once a week. But i have used stronger mixes with two weeks cook time and all was good. Just make sure to wet it down. Do you have fresh worm castings?
 

FresnoFarmer

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Cool. I think that is what I will do. Turn once a week for a few weeks and then plant em. Yes. I use the worm castings in my teas though. I don't amend with them. Gets too expensive. I need to start a worm bin soon. I did wet the soil pile down and mixed it up one more time to ensure even moisture. I have it sitting on a tarp so that the ground beneath doesn't wick the moisture from the pile.
 

st0wandgrow

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Cool. I think that is what I will do. Turn once a week for a few weeks and then plant em. Yes. I use the worm castings in my teas though. I don't amend with them. Gets too expensive. I need to start a worm bin soon. I did wet the soil pile down and mixed it up one more time to ensure even moisture. I have it sitting on a tarp so that the ground beneath doesn't wick the moisture from the pile.
Brew a compost tea and use that to wet the soil down with. The infussion of those microbes in the tea will help process those inputs quicker
 

DonPetro

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Brew a compost tea and use that to wet the soil down with. The infussion of those microbes in the tea will help process those inputs quicker
@st0wandgrow I did brew a compost tea and throw it over the top before I wet it down. Thanks for the reassurance that I'm doing something right.
Yea thats where i was going with the worm castings. Good to see we're all on the same page.
 

FresnoFarmer

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Thanks for all the help. I just wanted to make sure the soil isn't too hot before I plant in it. Does anybody feel that dolomite lime is a necessity? I will be watering with potassium silicate every watering anyways, which will be a solution of ph 10-12. Won't this raise my medium ph too high if I amended with dolomite lime and watered with potassium silicate?
 

DonPetro

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Thanks for all the help. I just wanted to make sure the soil isn't too hot before I plant in it. Does anybody feel that dolomite lime is a necessity? I will be watering with potassium silicate every watering anyways, which will be a solution of ph 10-12. Won't this raise my medium ph too high if I amended with dolomite lime and watered with potassium silicate?
What is the purpose of the potassium silicate? Does it help with growing in higher temps? My old-timer hippy friend always talks about that stuff. Is it organic friendly?
 

FresnoFarmer

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What is the purpose of the potassium silicate? Does it help with growing in higher temps? My old-timer hippy friend always talks about that stuff. Is it organic friendly?
The Dyna Gro Pro-tekt I have is supposed to be organic friendly. Just never use it in a tea because of the high ph level. The potassium siliciate strengthens the plants cell walls helping it fight off pests, disease, and also helps it handle heat and drought stress. It alslo makes the stems stronger and thicker so that come flowering the plant can support heavier buds on its own. I use it mainly so that my plants can handle the heat here and pests.
 

DonPetro

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Friendly, yes. Organic..... that's in question. If you're looking for a 100% organic option for silica I believe horestail is the best bet.

https://umm.edu/health/medical/altmed/herb/horsetail
The Dyna Gro Pro-tekt I have is supposed to be organic friendly. Just never use it in a tea because of the high ph level. The potassium siliciate strengthens the plants cell walls helping it fight off pests, disease, and also helps it handle heat and drought stress. It alslo makes the stems stronger and thicker so that come flowering the plant can support heavier buds on its own. I use it mainly so that my plants can handle the heat here and pests.
Right on. Good stuff to know. I have some DE rocks i may incorporate into the next mix. I keep forgetting i have them because they were included for free with my last order.
 

st0wandgrow

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Right on. Good stuff to know. I have some DE rocks i may incorporate into the next mix. I keep forgetting i have them because they were included for free with my last order.

Just anecdotal, but I would say silica makes the biggest over all difference in the plant out of any product I have ever used. Stems, branches, leaves all more rigid and able to support bud weight better. I add a teaspoon to my cloner too and it reallys seems to help pack on root mass. I think I paid $15 for a bottle of it and I've had it for over a year. A little dab will do ya
 

DonPetro

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Just anecdotal, but I would say silica makes the biggest over all difference in the plant out of any product I have ever used. Stems, branches, leaves all more rigid and able to support bud weight better. I add a teaspoon to my cloner too and it reallys seems to help pack on root mass. I think I paid $15 for a bottle of it and I've had it for over a year. A little dab will do ya
Wait until @DonTesla hears about this! Haha
 

FresnoFarmer

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Just anecdotal, but I would say silica makes the biggest over all difference in the plant out of any product I have ever used. Stems, branches, leaves all more rigid and able to support bud weight better. I add a teaspoon to my cloner too and it reallys seems to help pack on root mass. I think I paid $15 for a bottle of it and I've had it for over a year. A little dab will do ya
Yes, and at a rate of 1/4-1/2 tsp per gallon it really stretches out.
 

FresnoFarmer

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So, dolomite lime or no? I don't wanna add the lime and then the ph get fucked because of my potassium silicate use.
 
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