Mistrial declared in Bundy Trial

Sour Wreck · Jan 2, 2018

see4 said:
The Federal Reserve Banks are not owned by the federal government, they are a corporate entity. The Federal Reserve is an agency of the federal government to oversea the Federal Reserve Banks. Though the confusion for many lies in the fact that the Federal Reserve Banks must act like a federal agency as they are not driven by profit and are run by the people (for the people).

The Federal Reserve Banks are not a part of the federal government, but they exist because of an act of Congress. ... While the Board of Governors is an independent government agency, the Federal Reserve Banks are set up like private corporations. Member banks hold stock in the Federal Reserve Banks and earn dividends.

owners:
The Four Horsemen of Banking (Bank of America, JP Morgan Chase, Citigroup and Wells Fargo) own the Four Horsemen of Oil (Exxon Mobil, Royal Dutch/Shell, BP Amoco and Chevron Texaco); in tandem with Deutsche Bank, BNP, Barclays and other European old money behemoths.

i seriously doubt if these people have anything in mind, but money.

see4 · Jan 2, 2018

Sour Wreck said:
The Federal Reserve Banks are not a part of the federal government, but they exist because of an act of Congress. ... While the Board of Governors is an independent government agency, the Federal Reserve Banks are set up like private corporations. Member banks hold stock in the Federal Reserve Banks and earn dividends.

owners:
The Four Horsemen of Banking (Bank of America, JP Morgan Chase, Citigroup and Wells Fargo) own the Four Horsemen of Oil (Exxon Mobil, Royal Dutch/Shell, BP Amoco and Chevron Texaco); in tandem with Deutsche Bank, BNP, Barclays and other European old money behemoths.

i seriously doubt if these people have anything in mind, but money.

The Federal Reserve and The Federal Reserve Banks are not the same thing.
https://www.federalreserve.gov/aboutthefed.htm
https://www.federalreserve.gov/aboutthefed/federal-reserve-system.htm
https://www.federalreserve.gov/aboutthefed/pf.htm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.gov

I would consider this settled science.

twostrokenut · Jan 2, 2018

UncleBuck said:
awww, the insecure closet case can't alter the fact that the vast majority of terror attacks in the united states are committed by white, right wing extremists like himself, so he wants to get back to defending a bunch of white, criminal, mooches and leeches who prance around in cowboy costumes.

you:
"refused service to me on the basis of my sexuality. it's OK though, all her jewelry looked cheap and tacky anyway. like a bored housewife whose husband was cheating on her took up arts and crafts."

see4 · Jan 2, 2018

twostrokenut said:
you:
"refused service to me on the basis of my sexuality. it's OK though, all her jewelry looked cheap and tacky anyway. like a bored housewife whose husband was cheating on her took up arts and crafts."

incoherent rambling doesn't make for a sound argument.
try again.

twostrokenut · Jan 2, 2018

see4 said:
The Federal Reserve is a government entity.
A Federal Reserve Note is not debt.
Stop being a non-smart.

a federal reserve note is a negotiable instrument payable to the bearer on demand (12usc411) and thus, literally a promise to pay. ie a debt for you not smarts.

twostrokenut · Jan 2, 2018

see4 said:
incoherent rambling doesn't make for a sound argument.
try again.

that's your buddies Google review of a Buisness last year, it's hilarious in light of him calling everyone closet cases. good day sir.

see4 · Jan 2, 2018

twostrokenut said:
a federal reserve note is a negotiable instrument payable to the bearer on demand (12usc411) and thus, literally a promise to pay. ie a debt for you not smarts.

The actual code reads:

And what the premise of the original argument is based on:

Interpreted as, the federal reserve banks are obligated to redeem. We are not. The notes, dollar bills, are legal tender for all debts, public and private. The dollar bill in my pocket is not debt.

see4 · Jan 2, 2018

twostrokenut said:
that's your buddies Google review of a Buisness last year, it's hilarious in light of him calling everyone closet cases. good day sir.

try again.
how often do you dream about UncleBuck? are they sexual in nature?

twostrokenut · Jan 2, 2018

see4 said:
The actual code reads:
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And what the premise of the original argument is based on:
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Interpreted as, the federal reserve banks are obligated to redeem. We are not. The notes, dollar bills, are legal tender for all debts, public and private. The dollar bill in my pocket is not debt.

you are obliged to redeem under contract. negotiable instruments like fed notes are contractual and payable on demand. redemption means to remove the obligation, nothing more.

"for no other purpose" means you are a reserve agent or a reserve bank under contract.

at least you're reading code now though, b for effort.

twostrokenut · Jan 2, 2018

see4 said:
try again.
how often do you dream about UncleBuck? are they sexual in nature?

I could tie it all in for you with the other reviews of the local grow shop and golf course .....and landlord from back in the pnw.

those are his words.

anyhow I said good day. good day sir.

see4 · Jan 2, 2018

twostrokenut said:
you are obliged to redeem under contract. negotiable instruments like fed notes are contractual and payable on demand. redemption means to remove the obligation, nothing more.

"for no other purpose" means you are a reserve agent or a reserve bank under contract.

at least you're reading code now though, b for effort.

I have debt contracts with several banks for the mortgages I carry. YOU are obligated to pay those. Conflation Junction, what's your function.

I'm neither a reserve agent nor a reserve bank.

twostrokenut · Jan 2, 2018

see4 said:
I have debt contracts with several banks for the mortgages I carry. YOU are obligated to pay those. Conflation Junction, what's your function.

I'm neither a reserve agent nor a reserve bank.

those mortgages you are carrying are bank notes as well, negotiable instruments that's why they are bought and sold on the market.

federal reserve notes are obligations of the United States. your fiduciary agents signature is right on the front.

twostrokenut · Jan 2, 2018

see4 said:
try again.
how often do you dream about UncleBuck? are they sexual in nature?

*have dreams

see4 · Jan 2, 2018

twostrokenut said:
*have dreams

No. Go back to school. I'm not teaching you the basics.

UncleBuck · Jan 2, 2018

twostrokenut said:
you:
"refused service to me on the basis of my sexuality. it's OK though, all her jewelry looked cheap and tacky anyway. like a bored housewife whose husband was cheating on her took up arts and crafts."

i'm sorry it triggers you when i troll bigots.

i know how much you love bigotry after all

choomer · Jan 3, 2018

Sour Wreck said:
go ahead an point a gun at the feds and see where you end up...
fucking redneck morons !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
stupid homeschooled losers thought they were gonna start a redneck revolution

How does this address the fact that the case has been judged a mistrial because of illegal acts of the prosecution (and other federal agencies)?
Are you suggesting that lawlessness is horrid when "stupid home schooled loser redneck morons" do it, but when the entity that makes and enforces the law displays that same lawlessness it's OK?

Not much else can be inferred from your "reasoning".

P.S. ceefus has been proven wrong in his stance about the Federal Reserve multiple times using quotes from the Federal Reserve Act. It's a lost cause when champions of a lie can't be bothered to admit that the base document forming that cabal spells it out in no uncertain terms.

UncleBuck · Jan 3, 2018

choomer said:
Not sure that it's "triggering" when people just point out what a hypocritical liar you are (as I did with your last post which you seem to have no comment on now that your sources have been proven to cherry pick 2X's to further political agenda).

Ask cannobeer what's good for an ass that's just been reamed. I'm sure he has plenty of experience in that dept.

so you also support denying service to black people because they are black?

Nick m · Jan 3, 2018

Sir Napsalot said:
White mormon rancher has cattle confiscated for not paying grazing fees because he feels entitled

Actually he owned the ranch long before the BLM and their fees ever existed. He paid them to until he saw what was happening. The BLM is not there to help the Ranchers. There there to burden them. There used to be over 50 ranchers in Clark County Nevada today Cliven Bundy is the last one do you know why because he stood up to the BLM and said I'm not going to allow you to run me out of business. This man is a hero. Please spend a few hours actually digging into this.

UncleBuck · Jan 3, 2018

Nick m said:
Actually he owned the ranch long before the BLM and their fees ever existed. He paid them to until he saw what was happening. The BLM is not there to help the Ranchers. There there to burden them. There used to be over 50 ranchers in Clark County Nevada today Cliven Bundy is the last one do you know why because he stood up to the BLM and said I'm not going to allow you to run me out of business. This man is a hero. Please spend a few hours actually digging into this.

i just checked and he is a violent criminal white trying to mooch his way through life on welfare.

Nick m · Jan 3, 2018

UncleBuck said:
if the bundy's were black you would be shouting for blood, closet queer.

Actually the Black Panthers took over the state building in California with guns and held lawmakers captive and they did not spend a single day in jail. Lol

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