Moisture back into your Bud

Deketx

Deketx

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So, I put my buds into paper grocery bags. I opened and turned the buds around each day and checked on how dry they were getting. Well I checked them this morning and they felt dry, but the stems didn't snap and still had some "bend" in them.
I'm afraid I let them get too dry. They seemed to have some spongy feel in them yesterday , that seemed gone today.
Can I add some Boveda packs to add moisture back into the buds? I'm aware that the "cure" will not happen if they went to far, but adding some moisture back could help the way it smokes. Any ideas or tips on rescuing my buds? Some of you know this is my first grow in a long time, I want to try to save it as best I can after doing my best to screw up my grow throughout, lol.
 
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Frigault

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Throw in a masson jar. Look every hours for humidity built up on glass but really not much.Then you are okay for curing. Just open the lid let air out and shake and mix well and leav open a litle but like 20 mjnutes. If there is no humidity just shake it. If 12 hours kater there is no humidity on glass. Open it and taje a bud and play with it.. If it seems less dry then when you first put it in. Then you are curing. If its has dry has when you put it in then it was pas curing point and it is what it is.. But should feel dry abs stem should bend for curine. Uf it dry and it snaps its the ends and no curing will happen and you'll consum has it his
 
Renfro

Renfro

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The fan leaf trick is awesome and if you are worried about too much humidity during the process you can toss an integra boost pack in there with it.

I have remoistened many a pound by putting fresh fan leaves in a couple layers for about 12 hours. 6 or 8 large fans brings a pound up in rh% right nicely.
 
Kingrow1

Kingrow1

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If your weed overdried you forced it or suck at growing.

There is some misconception sbout the cure and moisture levels - noobs should be aware dried bud is 10-15% moisture and the cure not needed whatso ever to produce a finished final product.

So if your jarring to prevent over drying you basically have messed up or really dont understand the basic hang dry technique yet but read a lot of bogus crap about boveda and jarring early whilst not fully dry yet :-)
 
Deketx

Deketx

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Kingrow1 said:
If your weed overdried you forced it or suck at growing.

There is some misconception sbout the cure and moisture levels - noobs should be aware dried bud is 10-15% moisture and the cure not needed whatso ever to produce a finished final product.

So if your jarring to prevent over drying you basically have messed up or really dont understand the basic hang dry technique yet but read a lot of bogus crap about boveda and jarring early whilst not fully dry yet :-)
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Well please enlighten us with the correct way to do it instead of bashing what the majority of people do with their bud.
 
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Frigault

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Kingrow1 said:
If your weed overdried you forced it or suck at growing.

There is some misconception sbout the cure and moisture levels - noobs should be aware dried bud is 10-15% moisture and the cure not needed whatso ever to produce a finished final product.

So if your jarring to prevent over drying you basically have messed up or really dont understand the basic hang dry technique yet but read a lot of bogus crap about boveda and jarring early whilst not fully dry yet :-)
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Curing and drying are 2 different things. Like you would have fine cigares. 18 years old scotch and great wines... The real terms fir curing is called Aging.. And it has nothing to do with drying. Any body can dry weed in a 30% less room in the dark for 11 days bag it and go sell it for quick cash but not everybody has the time and patience to dry it properly take thevtime for the terpenes to become more pronouce and harsness ti smoothen.. Maybe you don't but some does.. . Like i said drying and curing are 2 diffrent things. And if you don't know this by now you've set yourself with the commercial growing mentality and feed thevworld fast foid thinking it's the same thing has fine diner... Curing is a process that can only be done before a harvest is dry. Adding moisture in anyway you can will not kickstart curing. It will only prevent you weed to turn into dust like commercial grower think 7% is a dry product..
 
Kingrow1

Kingrow1

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Deketx said:
Well please enlighten us with the correct way to do it instead of bashing what the majority of people do with their bud.
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I hang dry in a room i use on a line for a week till it smokes in a joint. After this i leave till it gets taste and smell. Weed may dry quick but chlorophyll and shit take a little longer.

Once its dry you got bud as best its gona be so eith jar smoke or sell.

Jarring is that and if weeds dry it simply stays that way when enclosed.

I see no reason to mess with bags climate and humidity till you recognize these simple points and observe the simple changes in the dry.

Sounds harsh but weed only over drys if you grow shit plants or force dry it. It equalizes with your climate but takes a lot longer to overdry.

Easy peasy but why believe me over all the other rather complex methods that do little to explain bud moisture and when weeds dty and done for bending syems in paper bags and guess work :-)
 
Kingrow1

Kingrow1

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Im one of few who take the time to explain exactly what drying and curing are in an industry full of rubbish and boveda - dried bud is 10-15% moisture and once it has hung long enough will be dank ass primo top shelf without the need to cure or jar so - no idea what your on about and you sound scientifically very wrong.



Frigault said:
Curing and drying are 2 different things. Like you would have fine cigares. 18 years old scotch and great wines... The real terms fir curing is called Aging.. And it has nothing to do with drying. Any body can dry weed in a 30% less room in the dark for 11 days bag it and go sell it for quick cash but not everybody has the time and patience to dry it properly take thevtime for the terpenes to become more pronouce and harsness ti smoothen.. Maybe you don't but some does.. . Like i said drying and curing are 2 diffrent things. And if you don't know this by now you've set yourself with the commercial growing mentality and feed thevworld fast foid thinking it's the same thing has fine diner... Curing is a process that can only be done before a harvest is dry. Adding moisture in anyway you can will not kickstart curing. It will only prevent you weed to turn into dust like commercial grower think 7% is a dry product..
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ChiefRunningPhist

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@Deketx
You just don't want fast drying.

There's terpenes & terpenoids. Terpenes are hydrocarbons that are present at chop, terpenoids are produced from the oxidation of certain chemicals during the dry & cure. This is why cured or aged weed is different than just dried weed. The terpenoids have had more time to develop in cured weed while they are comparitively lacking in weed with a shorter drying or ageing procedure utilized.

Idk the exact biochemical pathways or chemical reactions that take place during a cure, but as for the drying, the reduced vapor pressure in the environment where fast drying occurs means increased terpene evaporation, while a slow dry environment exhibits higher differential vapor pressure (in favor of room) which means terps will evap with more difficulty or not at all. The most volatile terps begin evaporating ~70°F @ STP.

If you can keep temps under 70F while increasing RH to offset the terps' vapor pressure noticed at the temperature and atmospheric pressure of the room (altitude will effect vapor pressure differential), then you'll have a more potent product. Water has a greater vapor pressure than terpenes do so it will evaporate at conditions that terpenes won't, this is why environmental control is important during the dry. The goal is to reduce moisture content while maintaining the target ingredients. The cure only adds to the dry through terpenoid development.

This is also why rehydrating doesn't "jump start" a cure. If the chemicals responsible for becoming terpenoids have evaporated, they will not magically fly back in if you rehydrate :bigjoint:
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Sounds harsh but weed only over drys if you grow shit plants or force dry it. It equalizes with your climate but takes a lot longer to overdry.
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Kingrow1 said:
If your weed overdried you forced it or suck at growing.
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Fast drying has absolutely nothing to do with your grow experience and everything to do with your dry environment.
 
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Budzbuddha

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ChiefRunningPhist said:
@Deketx
You just don't want fast drying.

There's terpenes & terpenoids. Terpenes are hydrocarbons that are present at chop, terpenoids are produced from the oxidation of certain chemicals during the dry & cure. This is why cured or aged weed is different than just dried weed. The terpenoids have had more time to develop in cured weed while they are comparitively lacking in weed with a shorter drying or ageing procedure utilized.

Idk the exact biochemical pathways or chemical reactions that take place during a cure, but as for the drying, the reduced vapor pressure in the environment where fast drying occurs means increased terpene evaporation, while a slow dry environment exhibits higher differential vapor pressure (in favor of room) which means terps will evap with more difficulty or not at all. The most volatile terps begin evaporating ~70°F @ STP.

If you can keep temps under 70F while increasing RH to offset the terps' vapor pressure noticed at the temp of the room, then you'll have a more potent product. Water has a greater vapor pressure than terpenes do so it will evaporate at conditions that terpenes won't, this is why environmental control is important during the dry. The goal is to reduce moisture content while maintaining the target ingredients. The cure only adds to the dry through terpenoid development.

This is also why rehydrating doesn't "jump start" a cure. If the chemicals responsible for becoming terpenoids have evaporated, they will not magically fly back in if you rehydrate :bigjoint:


Fast drying has absolutely nothing to do with your grow experience and everything to do with your dry environment.
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Budzbuddha

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Just mentioned the benefit of letting the weed “ develop “ during a cure ..... the profile becomes more pronounced and of course smoother when consumed .

This DINAMEX (Cali Sour x Emerald OG Kush) has cured for 5 months with an integra pack once dialed to 62% .
Still got the lemon diesel nose assault and head mash I expect .

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ChiefRunningPhist

ChiefRunningPhist

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Budzbuddha said:
Just mentioned the benefit of letting the weed “ develop “ during a cure ..... the profile becomes more pronounced and of course smoother when consumed .

This DINAMEX (Cali Sour x Emerald OG Kush) has cured for 5 months with an integra pack once dialed to 62% .
Still got the lemon diesel nose assault and head mash I expect .

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Looks like the Boveda moisture packs give off Acetone, while the Integra does not. I've never used humidity packs, but everytime I rehydrated I felt taste and favor suffered. I might try an Integra just to see for myself because now I'm curious lol
 

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Deketx

Deketx

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ChiefRunningPhist said:
@Deketx
You just don't want fast drying.

There's terpenes & terpenoids. Terpenes are hydrocarbons that are present at chop, terpenoids are produced from the oxidation of certain chemicals during the dry & cure. This is why cured or aged weed is different than just dried weed. The terpenoids have had more time to develop in cured weed while they are comparitively lacking in weed with a shorter drying or ageing procedure utilized.

Idk the exact biochemical pathways or chemical reactions that take place during a cure, but as for the drying, the reduced vapor pressure in the environment where fast drying occurs means increased terpene evaporation, while a slow dry environment exhibits higher differential vapor pressure (in favor of room) which means terps will evap with more difficulty or not at all. The most volatile terps begin evaporating ~70°F @ STP.

If you can keep temps under 70F while increasing RH to offset the terps' vapor pressure noticed at the temperature and atmospheric pressure of the room (altitude will effect vapor pressure differential), then you'll have a more potent product. Water has a greater vapor pressure than terpenes do so it will evaporate at conditions that terpenes won't, this is why environmental control is important during the dry. The goal is to reduce moisture content while maintaining the target ingredients. The cure only adds to the dry through terpenoid development.

This is also why rehydrating doesn't "jump start" a cure. If the chemicals responsible for becoming terpenoids have evaporated, they will not magically fly back in if you rehydrate :bigjoint:


Fast drying has absolutely nothing to do with your grow experience and everything to do with your dry environment.
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Interesting. I want to jar sooner this time because the RH is super low here this time of year. I checked every room on all 3 floors and the highest rh I can find is 40%. So I'm not trying to rush the drying, I'm attempting to get them in the jar sooner to avoid over drying the bud. The last buds dried for 6 days in paper bags, the 5th day it still had some spongy feel, the exterior was dry but the interior seemed to still have some moisture. But when I checked on day 6 the change was drastic. It was so much drier than the previous 24 checks. So any help is appreciated.
But I guess none of it matters since I grow shitty bud....
 
Deketx

Deketx

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ChiefRunningPhist said:
Looks like the Boveda moisture packs give off Acetone, while the Integra does not. I've never used humidity packs, but everytime I rehydrated I felt taste and favor suffered. I might try an Integra just to see for myself because now I'm curious lol
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I use boveda's in my humidor, and when I travel in my travel humidor. I might have to look at Integra.
 
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