Molasses part 2

After everything i have read on molasses from many different sites the only real reasons that i chose to use molasses was that it fattens the buds and helps root development not to mention aids in creating a good environment for micro-organisms that roots need or some shit like that lol.

Also i felt like it might help to make my buds a lil more sweet and a lil less harsh,i will let you know if it works for me anyway

virginharvester

here is a product the one i mentioned in a previous post

my neighbor is a sugar head,,,,he says you only use a 1/16th teaspoon per gallon,,,he has used sugars for over 25 years,,,

it has all of the same micro nutes you claim is in molasses

this works out to be 75% cheaper and easier than molasses,,,according to him at least

he does not sugar all his plants,,,,but has used sugars for 25 years,,,,the sugar itself is only needed not the by product

this type of sugar is also a super chelate,,,,

so in my previous post on page 9 those amounts are incorrect,,,i usually watched him and just assumed,,,so only 1/16th teaspoon per gallon,,,,used every third watering,,,he has a tried true method,,,maybe

virginharvester

they are not readily available because of the inorganic methods used to create the blackstrapp molasses,,,,along with the acidic state of the molasses

still always can be used but,,,,why

its good if you want the plant to have its immune system to try and protect itself ,,,by doing so will make a stronger plant,,,in a artificial kinda way,,,,the chemical make up of the sugar does this,,,,its up to you

since time tested examinations show no overall weight of medical buds is produced with molasses,,,,,why stimulate the immune system and tax the plant,,,seems like non sense to me,,fatter stems and some darker green leaves ,,,,,but same amounts of finished bud weight,,,with or wiithout

it is a unnatural type of stimulant,,,but hey,,,it works

would that really be considered organic and natural,,,,some say Yes,,,some say No

natmoon

generally the taste and sweetness is from the genectic make up of the strain or the cutting they chose,,,or got stuck with

Resinman said:

natmoon

generally the taste and sweetness is from the genectic make up of the strain or the cutting they chose,,,or got stuck with

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LOL yes i do realize that dude,i am not new to growing but flavours,sweetness etc. can be improved upon and seeing as i breed i kind of end up with what i want,and i am open to trying new ideas to see what the results are like

Resinman said:

the nutrition based compounds are not soluble to the human body

those stats are for humans,,,,it contains those compounds but are not avail to the human being,,,

you have not answered nothing my friend

the plant reacts to the chemical sugars in the molasses,,,

like giving someone a shot in the arm,,or a sugar high

blackstrapp mollases has been striped of its sugars,,,most of it

if you want to alter the plant as you would a small child

then just save yourself some money and use regular organic sugar of any type,,,,

and if you are in organic composted soil,,,you would not need any sugar

sugar is a chemical drug,,,to humans and plants

resinman

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You claim that the nutrients listed in molasses are for humans and not beneficial to plants but this is not entirely true. While the molasses is being sold for human consumption, the elements listed are not chemical compounds. Phosphorus is phosphorus, magnesium is magnesium, potassium is potassium and so on. Unless those elements are listed as compounds, they are no different than if you obtained them from any other source.
The argument could be made that because of the sugars or something else in molasses, maybe those elements are not as soluble in water than those same nutrients from a plant based fertilizer. Which could affect the absorb ability of those said nutrients to a plant. Granted their are different types of phophorus and potassium compounds that plants will absorb, some better than others but a plant will use potassium once converted in the soil to a usable form.

Just as plants dont use Nitrogen directly it is converted by denitrifying bacteria into Nitrates (NO3) in the soil and this is used by the plant. Same with phosphorus, it cannot be used directly by a plant, it combines with other elements in the soil and in nature to form phosphates which can be used by the plant.
So if the soil being used is healthy and full of beneficial bacteria than those elements will be converted into usable forms.

Well i have been using the molasses for nearly 4 weeks now every Monday 1tbsp in 3 litres of water distributed evenly as needed between my plants and they are fine and healthy and looking good so it definitely hasn't affected them adversely.
I am going to continue to use it every week and see what comes out of it.

I wouldnt imagine that it would hurt and on paper it seems as though it would be helpful but i would really like to see the side by side comparison with clones to really show whether or not there is a difference.
I dont really have the room or resources to experiment like this but i would love to see more people who have the ability, perform some controlled experiments such as this.

I have been growing for a long time and i can see a difference in structure and quality,especially in the thickness of the leaves and stems,in 6-8 weeks time i will give a heads up on what i think of the finished products flavour.

Next time i grow i will test different kinds of sugars alongside molasses

I'm not criticizing your first hand experience, i would just like to see the side by side to see how much improvement can actually be obtained. I started using molasses when i started my grow, but this is my first so i have nothing to compare to. I can say that it has not had any negative affects. I give my plants a full watering of a 1tbsp/gal watering ~once a week and my plants are very healthy looking.

I'm switching to 12/12 on sunday and i plan on continuing the same schedule.

nongreenthumb said:

I would like to add at this stage that adding molasses to a hydroponic system is a bad idea, if you have moving parts that come in contact with water, i.e. water pumps, then there is a good chance that these could become blocked.

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I'd like to report..NOT..I have been using it in HYDRO for years you just have to keep you stuff clean and mix well whaen added.
I had been using organic unsulferated molasses but reading this I'm gonna try the another brand that says unsulferated but still contain 1% salt...
What about that kindprincesses..what about the salt

organic soil here. I use the molasses with every tea I make to feed throughout the plants life cycle. The molassees NPK 5-1-1 gives the bacteria something to eat so they can multiply and live. These are what feed my plant by breaking down the nutirents in the soil. Air and molasses is what a good guano, worm castings, compost, etc etc tea need. I dont know what I would do with out it.

When I was in hydro I thought molasses was a finishing product and that was it. Nah, it is mostly used to feed the bacteria or as a fert. Bio Bizz omri is also molasses. I prefer some guano, so I am varied tea man.

without the molasses in the tea while it areates for 24 hours it would eat the fert.

molasess aint 5/1/1 its higher in k than anything