More reasons for impeachment, pick one!

medicineman

New Member
1. Direct violation of the oath of office...
"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."
Take your pick of amendments that this administration has violated - this is a list of each amendment that this administration has outright trampled.

# 1 - anyone that speaks up against the white house is considered to be an enemy. #s 5 - 8 directly relate to the treatment of the prisoners at Gitmo and anywhere else that the media won't tell us about. #10 would be the one that covers the attack via election rhetoric attempting to ban gay marriages nationwide and not allowing states to decide the issue individually. # 15 is the one that was violated in Florida in 2000 and Ohio in 2004. In both election cycles, if the African-Americans were not impeded or prevented from voting or subject to standing in lines for 6-11 hours, do you really believe that our 6 year nightmare would be taking place?

2. Though our media doesn't seem to agree, it is my belief that the outing of a covert C.I.A. agent's identity and exposing the remaining agents, in that operation, to grave danger in the U.S. and abroad, should reach the level of not only impeachment, but also warrant lengthy jail time.

3. Falsification of intelligence to go to war. It should enrage every
American that the administration went so far as to lie to Congress, the United Nations, every American and the World, in order to attack a nation that DID NOT PLAN OR PARTICIPATE IN THE EVENTS THAT OCCURRED ON 9/11/01! Though Saddam Hussein deserved his eventual punishment, Osama Bin Laden was as much or more of an enemy to him as George Bush!

4. Collusion! Why do you think Dick Cheney doesn't want anyone to know who attended his energy meeting in 2001? The intended result of that meeting is what we as regular (non-billionaire) Americans are enduring. The oil companies control the supply even more than before and now we are and will be paying severe consequences until another administration corrects that problem.

5. War profiteering. This country has gone from a time during WW II where a president did everything possible to prevent the types of things that our current president is doing. If nothing else I want Bush and Cheney to be brought to justice for profiting off of the deaths, mutilation, and overall suffering that are a direct result of the OCCUPATION in Iraq.

6. Dereliction of the duty of office. The current administration has intentionally turned our government into a dysfunctional entity. When you appoint or nominate people like Michael Brown, Donald Rumsfeld, John Bolton, Samuel Alito, John Roberts, Alberto Gonzales, Harriet Miers, and the list goes on. Though the president likes to play Gomer Pyle on television, you don't reach the level of incompetence that they have achieved by accident. How do you destroy the government you don't want? (The type government that yields surpluses after years of extreme deficits. The type of economy that is good for ALL Americans on ALL Levels. The kind of government that Bill Clinton promoted.) The only way to destroy that type of thriving democracy is to do it from the inside, like giving cancer to someone who was the picture of perfect health.

7. September 11, 2001. How convenient was it that President Bush happened to be on the longest vacation that any American President had ever taken before or since? What a coincidence it was that George Bush happened to be in the state where his brother is Governor, on the day that America has the most catastrophic event occur. Even though the NSA and other intelligence agencies were warning the president of a possible plot to do exactly what occurred, the administration had the audacity to send Condi "liar" Rice before Congress to deny any knowledge of possible attacks. Wasn't it convenient that George Bush allowed all of Osama Bin Laden's relatives to leave the U.S. before speaking to the F.B.I. or C.I.A. By the way, they left AFTER all other civilian and commercial air traffic had been grounded. Why is Osama Bin Laden still alive? Why was the debris (CRITICAL EVIDENCE) from the World Trade Center sent immediately out of the country?

Richard Nixon resigned because he knew that he would have been impeached and eventually convicted. George Bush and Richard Cheney should be impeached, convicted, and imprisoned. Even if they are not removed from office within the next 18 months, I believe that they should still eventually be brought to justice. I really don't think they should be allowed to walk away from everything that they have done as BILLIONAIRES!!!!

George Bush has run this country in a similar fashion as one of his good buddies from Texas ... I know you remember a fellow by the name of Ken Lay, the man behind Enron.
comment by bobcat41702 on July 5, 2007 8:17 AM ()


I'll GIVE YOU 14 REASONS
Submitted by "pat"

# Powerful and Continuing Nationalism
Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.

# Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights
Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.

# Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause
The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.

# Supremacy of the Military
Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.

# Rampant Sexism
The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Opposition to abortion is high, as is homophobia and anti-gay legislation and national policy.

# Controlled Mass Media
Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.

# Obsession with National Security
Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.

# Religion and Government are Intertwined
Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions.

# Corporate Power is Protected
The industrial and business aristocracies of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.

# Labor Power is Suppressed
Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed.

# Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts
Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts is openly attacked, and governments often refuse to fund the arts.

# Obsession with Crime and Punishment
Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.

# Rampant Cronyism and Corruption
Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.

# Fraudulent Elections
Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.

THERE IS NOT ONE OF THESE THAT DOES NOT REPRESENT OUR CURRENT ADMINISTRATION. IMPEACH OR CONTINUE TO WATCH "FASCIST CREEP" TAKE OVER OUR COUNTRY.
 

Erniedytn

Master of Mayhem
If there was any real reason for Bush to be impeached, he would be out the door by now.
Whatever dude...they tried to impeach Clinton over lying about getting a blowjob. As hard as the presidents job is we should be sending him pussy IMO. Now we have this fucker in office who can't open his mouth w/o telling a lie. Where are the WMDs Saddam had? Going to war under false pretenses alone should be enough to impeach his stupid ass.

Now that he has re-arranged the administration to his liking, and everyone who would not co-operate has resigned, it will never happen; besides we are to close to the next election.
 

suicidesamurai

Well-Known Member
Believe me, I'd like to see Bush impeached. But there isn't a good enough reason for it. Only those on the far-left suggest it, and that is because they aren't bright enough to understand you need good reasons to impeach someone. With Clinton they had good reasons.

And Med, suicide isn't my style. Sorry.
 

ViRedd

New Member
OK so let me get this right.....lying about a blowjob is grounds for impeachment, but lying about a reason to go to war is not?
1. Clinton didn't get impeached for "lying about sex." He was impeached for lying to a grand jury while under oath. That's a felony in every state in the Union.

2. Bush didn't "lie about a reason to go to war." If Bush lied about the intellegence, then so did every democrat member of the Senate, the Congress and so did Bill Clinton.

Vi
 

Erniedytn

Master of Mayhem
1. Clinton didn't get impeached for "lying about sex." He was impeached for lying to a grand jury while under oath. That's a felony in every state in the Union.

2. Bush didn't "lie about a reason to go to war." If Bush lied about the intellegence, then so did every democrat member of the Senate, the Congress and so did Bill Clinton.

Vi
Spoken like a true republican:clap:
Edit: but you don't vote republican.
 

Gygax1974

Just some idiot
lying about a blow job vs. lying to start a war....gee which is going to actually affect this country? Apples and oranges. They both lied and yes Clintopn lied under oath he deserved to get punished for lying. If you don't think Bush should be impeached give a reason....

So what's to stop another president from starting a personal war if nothing happens as a consequence? Why should we let politicians walk all over us are we that pathetic? Dude I don't know how you feel but basically some terrorists f*cked with us in our own neighborhood, and we were pissed as hell and I felt we were actually all united in that moment, we were all brothers and sisters that day, we all hurt, we all where sad and angry...a united front, a family. Our leader turned around and took advantage of the situation by starting a war to profit the oil industry (his friends). What have we done to pay back those cowards that actually committed this atrocity in our own backyard. NOTHING!!! I don't know about you guys but I want my children to grow up in a safer world....

Bush made us look pathetic to the rest of the world...he took advantage of each and every citizen of this country. He is responsible for every life lost in this so called "war". He told congress to back off yesterday, he basically told this country that what we want doesn't matter. He's OC....outta control...a bull in a china shop
 

Erniedytn

Master of Mayhem
lying about a blow job vs. lying to start a war....gee which is going to actually affect this country? Apples and oranges. If you don't think that he should be impeached give a reason....

So what's to stop another president from starting a personal war if nothing happens as a consequence? Why should we let politicians walk all over us are we that pathetic? Dude I don't know how you feel but basically some terrorists f*cked with us in our own neighborhood, and we were pissed as hell and I felt we were actually all united in that moment, we were all brothers and sisters that day, we all hurt, we all where sad and angry...a united front, a family. Our leader turned around and took advantage of the situation by starting a war to profit the oil industry (his friends). What have we done to pay back those cowards that actually committed this atrocity in our own backyard. NOTHING!!! I don't know about you guys but I want my children to grow up in a safer world....

Bush made us look pathetic to the rest of the world...he took advantage of each and every citizen of this country. He is responsible for every life lost in this so called "war". He told congress to back off yesterday, he basically told this country that what we want doesn't matter. He's OC....outta control...a bull in a china shop
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suicidesamurai

Well-Known Member
OK so let me get this right.....lying about a blowjob is grounds for impeachment, but lying about a reason to go to war is not?
You can't prove that Bush lied about it. That's the difference. Just because you think he lied means nothing. You can't stand infront of Congress and say "I THINK" the President did something, therefore he should be impeached.
 

Erniedytn

Master of Mayhem
You can't prove that Bush lied about it. That's the difference. Just because you think he lied means nothing. You can't stand infront of Congress and say "I THINK" the President did something, therefore he should be impeached.

WTF are you on dude? There is no I think to it....he lied about the WMDs in Iraq..period.
 

suicidesamurai

Well-Known Member
If you don't think Bush should be impeached give a reason....
You are the one wanting impeachment, so it is your job to provide reasons. That's like saying "I'm going to bash your head in, unless you give me a reason not to." or "I'm going to fire you Johnson, unless you talk me out of it."
 

Erniedytn

Master of Mayhem
Weed and Johnnie Walker Black.


How many in Congress have called him on it and provided evidence proving it?
The evidence was obviousley either wrong or trumped up by the Al-CIA-Da. I'll go with the latter. Maybe your right, maybe he is just an idiot that goes off of what people tell him, but I highly doubt it. There is another agenda at work here, but nothing will be done about it and we will get yet another corrupt president like Rudy Guilliani.
 

suicidesamurai

Well-Known Member




The evidence was obviousley either wrong or trumped up by the Al-CIA-Da. I'll go with the latter. Maybe your right, maybe he is just an idiot that goes off of what people tell him, but I highly doubt it. There is another agenda at work here, but nothing will be done about it and we will get yet another corrupt president like Rudy Guilliani.
You have to remember, everyone was going on about WMDs. If the CIA and the British are telling him they are there, he is going to believe them. I don't think we should be in Iraq, but it does serve one useful purpose: drawing in the scumbags so we can kill them. The downside is that it makes them want to attack us even more.
 

Erniedytn

Master of Mayhem
The downside is that it makes them want to attack us even more.
Exactly..we basically took a beehive and kicked that bitch across the yard. Now everyone is saying we need to pull out of Iraq, but if we do it will only make the situation worse at this point.
 

ViRedd

New Member
Spoken like a true republican:clap:
Edit: but you don't vote republican.
Nope. Spoken like an adult who is a critical thinker. If you want to believe everything the Mainstream Media shoves down your throat, then have at it. As for me, I search out alternative information.

And you're correct, I don't vote Republican. And by the way, I don't vote for the Stalinist Party either.

Vi
 

ViRedd

New Member
Exactly..we basically took a beehive and kicked that bitch across the yard. Now everyone is saying we need to pull out of Iraq, but if we do it will only make the situation worse at this point.
Sorry, but "everyone" is NOT saying we should pull out of Iraq. Those who remember history are not saying that at all. Those who have analyized the situation realize exactly why we are there and why we should stay. Those with a political axe to grind or those America Haters on the extreme left ... you know the rabid Bush haters? ... well, when they see the blood-bath the pull out will cause, they'll start bitching about to rapid of a pull-out just as soon as we pull out. Read some Vietnam history for reference.


Vi
 
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