MrHowardMarks' experienced grower journal.

kg2105

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Thank's I like my new avatar too :mrgreen:

- George Lopez -
Getting 5 pounds from two 1000s is possible, but you'd have to have the perfect conditions and a real production strain... I don't think you can do it, I'd shoot for three pounds, but you'll most likely end up with two... Sorry to burst your bubble...

A good estimate is a half gram per watt, so a pound per light is average, getting a gram per watt is really good, and that would put you at 2 pounds 3 ounces per 1000W...

Sure if you can afford eight 1000W lights, go for it, but if you're not extrenely experienced, I'd start with two lights, and hone in on the technique.

But yeah, your buddy gets three pounds from 2 1000Ws, that's about average, don't hope for 5. :leaf:
Loving the thread u inspired me to make my first post hah been checking it daily keep up the good work bud.. i have a questino just out of curiosity what would be the perfect conditions to be able to get 5 pounds per 2 lights? temp? co2 ? special nutes?

also if it isn't to much work what nutes do you use when u put your plants into bud ? thanks if u posted about this i couldn't find it in the thread .

thanks
 

MrHowardMarks

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To get five pounds from two 1000W lights, everything must be in perfect order. Everything.

Five pounds is 2240 grams, that's 1.12 grams per watt... That's perfection.

In order to do this, you must know exactly what you're doing and the garden has to be perfect, no stunting or problems.

I'd use the entire Advanced Nutrients 2+ formula, for the best feeding.

I'd also use a serious production strain, big bud, chronic... The like.

Co2 would be a must have at the best temp for it 83-85 degrees.

And I'd definately do hydro, for the slight yield increase.


I'm currently using Advanced Nutrients 2part, with Barricade, Carbo load, big bud, sweet leaf and overdrive, which is an abbreviated list from the 2+ formula.

I'm also using the entire Fox Farm line.

Big Bloom, Grow Big, Tiger Bloom, and the soluables; Open Sesame, Beastie Budz, and ChaChing.

I also use barricade and carboload with the regiment, along with Superthrive.

Barricade is potassium silicate, or silica, there are comparable products from other companies.

Carboload is exactly that, carbs... Which are sugars.
 

SlikWiLL13

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got pollen. i took part in dirty weed-lovin. :hump::hump: i feel so used *sniff* ... just someone to hold the pollen sacs without so much as a goodnite kiss...


thanks for all your help, now its waitin time!
 

MrHowardMarks

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She only eats the leaves I give her, she loves harvest time, I give her a fair share of leaves worthy of becoming hash. :mrgreen:


I'm about to go over to a buddies and upload some pics... I'll post back in an hour or two. :leaf:
 

MrHowardMarks

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that's gross slickwillie, but I hope you got the KY out, cause here's the pics... I'm going to switch to 12/12 within the week so the bloom time is on...

Here's that cabinet, storage thing I built...




Here's my filter sitting amongst the water heater and furnace...




Here's the bloom room...


the rest are linked in the attachments
 

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SlikWiLL13

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lookin great! you mentioned earlier that you dont have heat issues, looks like you ballasts are in your room. still no heat issues?

also, when pollinated the pistils turn right? how long does it take for them to turn after pollinated? i can use this as a sign i did it right, correct?
 

MrHowardMarks

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Nope, no heat issues at all, the ballasts hardly create any heat, they're Future-Bright digital ballasts. Actually it's a little cold, it's only 72 degrees near the hoods, 70 near the floor... Humidity is 50% consistant.


-Slickwillie-
They'll wither quicker than expected, in a few weeks the pollinated calyxes will be way more plump than the newer growth, wait until proper harvest time for the seed to mature.
 

MrHowardMarks

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Neither can I... It's been a lot of work to get to this point, I believe it was Oct 2nd when the first sprout broke soil, so a month and a half later I'm ready for bloom with a little more than fifty plants, clones from a group of seed mothers.


-Out of them all, the 9Mile seems to be the fastest growing, and strongest of them all.

The Super Skunk is the fastest to root, taking 8-9 days, while the Silver Mangoes have been kinda slow going, rooting and all, but I remember the mango being that way, and stretching like hell in flower, so who knows if the Silver Pearl's characteristics were passed on...

I'll be cutting a shitload of clones tomorrow, and moving all of the mothers out of the bloom room, and into the veg cabinet. Getting ready for the second round, so it can be perpetual. I hope I have enough room to keep 12 mothers and 50 or so youngsters nice and comfortable for two months, well the youngsters only a month and a half... I'll feed them barely anything to keep them small and manageable.

I'll keep up on the progress, it's about to get pretty exciting, blooming is when the magic happens.
 

DR. VonDankenstine

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Most generators take a 20 pound tank, like for a propane grill, you can also use the bigger ones that are found in RVs and campers. Also there is most likely a natural gas version, it has different burner tips that allow use of natural gas...

For a tent, I'd recommend a tank system, it's a small enough area, and a generator might be overkill.

Also, generators are designed for greenhouses, and large areas, and aren't supposed to be used indoors.



Please be safe----Natural Gas is the way to go if you have it.----
Safety: Natural Gas Safety

Carbon Monoxide

difficult to hear the alarm.
Rule
Carbon monoxide concentrations and symptoms

  • 35 parts per million (ppm) = No adverse effects within eight hours
  • 200 ppm = Mild headache after two to three hours of exposure
  • 400 ppm = Headache and nausea after one to two hours
  • 800 ppm = Headache, nausea and dizziness after 45 minutes; collapse after two hours
  • 1000 ppm = Loss of consciousness after one hour
  • 1600 ppm = Headache, nausea and dizziness after 20 minutes; unconsciousness after 30 minutes
  • 3200 ppm = Headache, nausea and dizziness after 5-10 minutes; unconsciousness after 30 minutes
  • 12,800 = Immediate physiological effects; unconsciousness and danger of death after only one to three minutes
Ideally, natural gas burns in an appliance completely and efficiently, mixing with the oxygen in the air to produce harmless carbon dioxide (CO2) and water vapor.
But if conditions aren't right, the natural gas won't combust completely, giving off deadly fumes of carbon monoxide (CO).
The dangers of carbon monoxide

When humans breathe in carbon monoxide, it enters the bloodstream and depletes oxygen from the blood cells.
Exposure is harmful at high levels over a short period of time, or at lower levels over a longer period - overnight, for example. Carbon monoxide can be especially dangerous during the winter, when our homes are sealed up tight.
Symptoms mimic the flu


The early effects of CO poisoning mimic the flu, so watch for these warning signs:
  • Headache
  • Nausea or vomiting
  • Dizziness and disorientation
  • Muscle weakness or fatigue
If the flu-like symptoms are NOT accompanied by fever, if everyone in the family is ill, or if the symptoms disappear when you leave the house, you may have a CO problem - have your gas appliances checked by a service technician right away.
It's important to catch CO problems in the early stages. If exposure continues, the poisoning reaches the central nervous system, resulting in memory loss, slurred speech, loss of consciousness and eventually death.
Carbon monoxide concentrations and symptoms
Carbon monoxide poisonings are often detected by family or friends telephoning a disoriented victim; if you notice any of these symptoms in someone you know, call 911.
Preventing carbon monoxide


Prevention is the only way to deal with carbon monoxide, and the best prevention is regular inspection by a service technician.
  • An appliance could produce carbon monoxide if:
  • Boxes, laundry or other materials are blocking the base, restricting oxygen flow.
  • The vent hood, pipes or flues are blocked or corroded.
  • The unit is installed or adjusted improperly.
  • It's used incorrectly (i.e., heating a room with a gas stove).
  • The heat exchanger is cracked.
Natural gas furnaces should be inspected every year; other appliances, such as water heaters, clothes dryers and stoves, should be checked every two years. If you have a natural gas fireplace, it should be serviced regularly as well.

Did you know?
The symptoms
of CO poisoning
mimic the flu –
but without
a fever.
Carbon monoxide detectors

If you have natural gas appliances, a carbon monoxide detector is a must for keeping your family safe.
These devices work like smoke detectors, sounding an audible alarm if a certain level of carbon monoxide (CO) is detected.
The best CO detectors are electronic alarms that notify you if the level of CO is your home reaches 50 parts per million. A digital model will have a display panel showing the exact levels detected.
You can choose from alarms that are battery-powered, hard-wired or plug into an outlet. Keep these tips in mind:
For battery-powered models, change the batteries a minimum of every six months. An easy way to remember is whenever you change your clocks for Daylight Savings Time.
For hard-wired or plug-in models, remember that these won't work during a power outage. If a storm knocks out your power for an extended period, make sure to reset the detector when service is restored.
A CO detector should be installed near living and sleeping areas of your home. Placing it in the basement near the furnace could produce false reading and make it
 

MrHowardMarks

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Thank's Doc, I posted about Carbon Monoxide earlier, i forget if it was in your thread or here, good information. :mrgreen:

-Definately a good idea to shell out a few bucks if you're running a generator in your grow room.

-Also if you're running a generator, vent the growroom air outside, not into the rest of your house, dangerous levels of CO could result.
 

Thundercat

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Thanks for the info on the generator. Part of why I was thinking about it, was kinda for an investment in my future. Something I will be able to use for years to come in a more permanent situations. It would be being used in an empty basement, do you think that would still be a problem?
 

MrHowardMarks

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No... Generators are not a problem to use at all.

Actually in the long run they cost less to operate than a tank system, especially if you are running the natural gas, or have propane in your house and run it from the home gas.

Problem is, majority of affordable newer homes, especially those built in the late 70s through the 80s and into the 90s were run on electric and don't have gas run to them. Because of the 80s gas crisis. Most new homes are also run on electricity due to the recent price of gas, and electric being more affordable.


Then main difference between a tank system and generator is with a generator their is heat, fire, and combusted carbon, all dangerous... However a tank system does have a very slight chance of the tank exploding, very slight...

As long as you're venting the growroom adequately to the exterior of the living space, have a CO detector, and make sure there isn't anything flammable around the generator, it's safe enough.

Also while we're talking about safety, glass lenses and air cooled hoods are also a safety issue... Heat and the possibility of a bulb exploding are the issues.


Personally, in 7 years of using HID bulbs, I've never had a bulb explode, I've always used lenses and hoods.

I'm talking about the cheapo Batwing, or the Rice patty hat, anything that leaves the bulb fully exposed.

If water hits the bulb while it's burning, or while it's still hot it will explode.

Also, it;s recommended not to touch the bulb during installation, use a paper towel to screw it in. On the other hand, I have super caloused fingers, and don't bother with the paper towel, I touch the bulb, after like 3 years I haven't noticed a single problem... But I still suggest using a glove or paper towel, I don't know how clean your hands are, maybe you think you can rub your greasy dorito cheese covered fingers all over your bulb... Don't.

I'm a pretty clean person, maybe a bit OCD, well definately a bit OCD, I thought it was called perfectionist until there was a cure for everything invented. :leaf:
 

SlikWiLL13

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LMFAO @ greasy dorito covered fingers...

sadly people need to know these things, i had a buddy with a cooled hood and the glass was so damn dirty it was practically translucent.
 
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