Munch Box Grubbin Grape Ape

My first ONLINE grow. Grape Ape clones in hygroton/coco mixed medium. sensi grow, pirahna, voodoo, B-52, barricade,and cannazym.

After one week, one of those lucky ladies will be placed in my DIY Ebb & Flow/ Deep water culture (bubbler or fogger compatible).

I have the purple urkel (cousin) in ebb n flow and ive been wanting to switch to that kind of setup. Keep posting your progress. Im curious to see how it likes the setup. Good luck.

thanks. and stick with the ebb and flow works better than the drip system. drip systems are good for small plants, but when it comes to large flowering plants they just don't get the coverage, and complete root saturation that flood and drain allows. If you are you using ebb and flow have you thought of maybe using an ultrasonic fogger in addition?it is the most pure and true form of aeroponics. Foggers work great as an ADDITION to something more powerful such as ebb and flow and/or DWC systems. ..The same idea could be said, "LEDs work well as a supplament light to an HID garden."

even tho you can be an asshole at times, im glad you decided to start posting again, let alone start a journal.


as much shit as I've talked to you, i apologize bro.... we all here for the same shit.

glad your ass got the co2/venting problem fixed (or did you?) i've been wanting to see that box in action man....bout time you stopped bullshitting....lol

much luck bro...and ill keep in touch for sure.

and oh yea, munch....school me on them foggers regarding adding them to an ebb and flow setup....im interested....as im building a fogger cloner unit now for my babies....but im wondering that it might not work because the roots will be in a medium (starter plugs or something) and the fog wont be to no advantage...what ya think bro


and i see you are using coco....i keep telling people about that damn coco, they dont blv me. me personally, i think coco is an excellent medium for hydro...and will bring that 'soil' taste out that everyone crys about hydro lacks....

LoudBlunts said:

and oh yea, munch....school me on them foggers regarding adding them to an ebb and flow setup....im interested....as im building a fogger cloner unit now for my babies....but im wondering that it might not work because the roots will be in a medium (starter plugs or something) and the fog wont be to no advantage...what ya think bro


and i see you are using coco....i keep telling people about that damn coco, they dont blv me. me personally, i think coco is an excellent medium for hydro...and will bring that 'soil' taste out that everyone crys about hydro lacks....

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aeroponics is a great way to clone. early on the stems don't go in a plug or any type of medium at all. instead a neoprene collar is set in place, while roots develop underneath. foggers also work extremely well when applying foliar feeds, plants absorb the tiny mist particles much better than something as large as a drop of water. This will give your UNrooted clones a much higher success rate.

i just dont wanna shock the plants by sitting hydroton or coco around the root system...

fletch has did some aero clone buckets with netpots so you can have RW and hydroton....

btw bro...what kinda coco are you using? any reason you arent using coco specific nutes? any updates? pics?

Filthyfletch uses misters and sprinkler heads. which works great don't get me wrong, but you must use a medium instead of a neoprene collar in that setup. fog is delicate/ most misters are too harsh and will damage an exposed stem, or prevent it from developing roots.Again, foggers deliver water molecules at 5 microns! Fletch is hitting his plants with more like 180 microns or larger with his system. I'm talking about something like this. SH Hydroponics > Mistic Cloner --------Here is a site that will show you a basic set up and idea of what a typical ebb & flow fogger system looks like.
Nutramist - Welcome to the new revolution in Hydroponics. ----------Overpriced so make your own.DIY parts and accessories found here. Nutramist Fogger for Hydroponics and Aeroponics by FUTUREGARDEN Keep in mind the reason why they use a medium in those nutramist systems is because they are set up for flood and drain as well. foggers are not recommended to be used alone for large flowering plants.
- I am not sure what type of coco i have. it came with the v-drip that i bought. I'm using mostly a clay mix. 1part coco/2parts clay .the reason people don't like coco or use it i think is because its in small pieces that seeps through net pots, and may clog pumps. Plants love being grown in coco mix and don't need to be watered as often as hygroton. Hygroton is easily recyclable. Its all about personal preference for different types of setups. both mediums work well in soil mixes. Experiment yourself and find out what works best for you. good luck bro

Watch this informative video will show you how to set up a DIY system for less than $50. The problem with this guys set up is he uses the cups too early and also there is no need for rooter cubes. Just a neoprene collar and a few other adjustments for faster results. It takes a little more practice and experience, but will pay off huge for people who do a lot of cloning . Not me, but i think this may be the answer your looking for. hope this helps http://www.growyourown-online.com/GYO-16-HerbMaster/GYO-16-HerbMaster.html

I am in.....GL

i am also growing grape ape i just happened to get my clones from the man who made the strain he gowes by the name of the dutchman

You can get those little fog makers in pet stores. I have snakes and noticed these when I was trying to better regulate that 85% rh. They're like $40 but easily fit in your pocket.

Those clones look half dead to me.
Dont you think it might be a good idea to use strong clones

DAY2 not half dead, just young. i didn't clone them myself I bought them for 8$ each. one or two might not make it, but I'm confident most of them, if not all, will make it. the picture was taken same day as transplant. the plants have survived the shock, and are now standing straight up. more pics coming later. Sorry about the blurry pictures people, my digi broke.I just have a cell phone camera for now

DAY3 new shoots opening up like crazy, leaves beginging to appear close together in tight stacked node regions on most of these plants. They all seem to be doing quite well. grape ape is a slow vegging strain , but i think co2 could be the answer to that problem. these plants love it here in their new home. in the picture a leaf is burnt and it was like that when i bought it. don't know how it happened, and Nat, NO my plants are not half dead.....

Dude those are different plants lol
All of the leaves in your first post are cut short.
All of the leaves in your last pic post have not been cut
I bet your glad you decided to start on me arent you

i still have the ones that have been cut short (2) do you want to see an update on how well they are doing too? I can take a close up of every last clone and tag them just for you nat. leaves are cut short before a clone is taken to reduce transpiration. whats your point?

munch box said:

i still have the ones that have been cut short (2) do you want to see an update on how well they are doing too? I can take a close up of every last clone and tag them just for you nat. leaves are cut short before a clone is taken to reduce transpiration. whats your point?

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Man im just messing with you
Sux though don't it

my ph keeps going up. i set my ph at 5.8 and it goes up to 6.2 after one feeding and if i let my nute mix run a second feeding with out adjustment, it goes up to 6.4 ph. my tds meter has also gone up from 600 ppm to 800 after 5 feedings from a 3 gallon resivoir. what do you guys think is happening? I'm sure the reason the ppm is going up is because the plants are drinking more water than they are consuming nutrients. But what is the deal with the ph keep going up? is it because of the coco you think? this stuff is supposed to be ph balanced. Does anybody have any ideas?