my 3 stages of flower

superstoner1

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72 is just in that iffy area and when you have so much time and money invested , why take chances. i see all these posts about heat/ rot/ plant issues, and in my book enviroment should be well covered before a seed is ever popped.
 
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oceangreen said:
I also am trying to help make Sampsons oil to be researched by a private lab that we know, but I need my own shop and have to fund the research and they said they would do it. This way we can have factual evidence published on the web by a reputable med lab backed by a known an published grow environment.
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You just became my hero, OG. Let's Do It!
 
oceangreen

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superstoner1 said:
pics of pineapple express at 17-18 days in dwc. and new veg/clone room in progress.
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that's unreal... Are you using botanicare on that too?

I just got my new DWC dialed in, then I come to comp to see this after 17 days...
Why are you just so much better than me at everything..:wall:
 
superstoner1

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normally that plant would have never made it to the flower room, itwould have gone in the trash. i started to add a 5gal dwc when i would start a new flower rotation in my rail units and let it just sit in my walkspace and all it gets is the very far edge of my light spread. i just take nute mix from whatever flower res the plant matches in rotation and cut in half with water, usually 450-500ppm and botanicare. hey, its an extra 2-3oz at harvest, why not?
 
oceangreen

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Sounds good, I just got the chiller...

I definitely need to know how you set it up for the 3 flower systems and the veg system...
 
superstoner1

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it really doesnt get much more sealed than this. veg room is 5x10 and used 18 tubes of caulk and 5 coats of rubber paint.
 
superstoner1

superstoner1

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i built it just like my flower room and i have had people 2' from the door and have no idea. no odor control needed if sealed.
 
oceangreen

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I didn't think doing this setup properly would be so tough! Especially with so many parts not available in my country, but I am so close, I can feel it!!

Only difference is I will be using the copper wort chiller..... hope it doesn't turn out to be a variable... if it does, water bottles it is..

How often did you add an ice bottle to each container. once a day?
 
superstoner1

superstoner1

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usually add a couple at lights on then again at lights off if using bottes. i am curious about the copper, but just keep an eye on it.
 
superstoner1

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i used no glue for any of the systems from clone to flower except for the flower rail endcaps. 1/2" & 3/4" pvc really dont need it.
 
oceangreen

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Yep..here it is

"So here is the chemical reason this experiment was not successful.

For those of you that don't know as budlydoright predicted I got a bad case of Iron lockout due to excess copper ions.

The nutes don't swap directly with the copper, but I happen to use Citric Acid as a pH down, and that will react with copper oxide. So the citric acid keeps the copper free of oxide, the oxygen reacts with the metallic copper at the surface and oxidizes it readily.. so the cycle continues until there is no more citric acid to consume. Most pH downs will do this, some stronger acids will dissolve copper directly. This also has the side effect of neutralizing all the pH down I added, leading to pH problems.

I will message the admins to edit my first message with a warning not to use copper.

That said a stainless steel wort chiller is only $45 online, less than half the price of the cool coil product."
 
oceangreen

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oceangreen said:
Yep..here it is

"So here is the chemical reason this experiment was not successful.

For those of you that don't know as budlydoright predicted I got a bad case of Iron lockout due to excess copper ions.

The nutes don't swap directly with the copper, but I happen to use Citric Acid as a pH down, and that will react with copper oxide. So the citric acid keeps the copper free of oxide, the oxygen reacts with the metallic copper at the surface and oxidizes it readily.. so the cycle continues until there is no more citric acid to consume. Most pH downs will do this, some stronger acids will dissolve copper directly. This also has the side effect of neutralizing all the pH down I added, leading to pH problems.

I will message the admins to edit my first message with a warning not to use copper.

That said a stainless steel wort chiller is only $45 online, less than half the price of the cool coil product."
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But one thing I am confused about is copper ions exist in tap water.. So I guess some places might have more than others...


Makes me want to invest in an RO system
 
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