my 3 stages of flower

JRR Tokin said:

Hey Super, I'm thinking about doing all 3 stations together just for the time being. Having said that, when would you consider moving veg plants to the rails? I'm thinking go as long as they have space in aero then switch to rails and veg some more before 12/12. Has anybody here tried the whole process in the rails?

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I asked the same question to SB recently when I saw very small plants in a picture of his rails and he said that yes, you can veg in the rails, it is all about the light cycle. Seems that a lot of folks are using 24 hours of light during veg to drive the plants faster. The trigger for the plants to change to flowering mode is darkness, somewhere around 12 hours of complete uninterrupted darkness. The science behind this is pretty remarkable, how the chemicals in the plant respond to the light cycle. The take away from this is that we need to respect the dark periods to make the plant do what we want. And of course the nutes should be appropriate for the stage of the plant.

Thanks man. I appreciate your input. I guess the better question is do they grow (veg) as well in NFT (rails) as in the aero vegger?

JRR Tokin said:

Hey Super, I'm thinking about doing all 3 stations together just for the time being. Having said that, when would you consider moving veg plants to the rails? I'm thinking go as long as they have space in aero then switch to rails and veg some more before 12/12. Has anybody here tried the whole process in the rails?

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That is how I started with my first two rails as at that time I didn't have any clue this system is meant to run perpetual. Now I got the vegger and cloner going and I am Happy, Happy, Happy as old Phil would say!

JRR Tokin said:

Hey Super, I'm thinking about doing all 3 stations together just for the time being. Having said that, when would you consider moving veg plants to the rails? I'm thinking go as long as they have space in aero then switch to rails and veg some more before 12/12. Has anybody here tried the whole process in the rails?

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yah its fine... roots wont clog.. i have had monster in there....

Ok every one...

I have a very good simple recipe for VEG using the EXACT SS Vegger. WITH GH NUTRIENTS

THE GH FLORA Series to be exact

Oceangreens GH recipe for Veg:

3:2:1
Grow:Micro:Bloom
400ppm on .5 scale or 600ppm at .7 scale
2 cap fulls of stresszyme
1 ml per gallon of dynagro protekt


I find this reciep to cater to every strain, even BB my sensi seeds. In addition, The growth is exactly the same as with SS formula.


I am working on the flowering formula as well. I have gotten the week 1-2 down perfect, once i finish the cycle and see the yiled, Ill post it up

Damn i just need to let og take over my thread.

superstoner1 said:

Damn i just need to let og take over my thread.

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Fuck that! Everything I learned is from you and OD! I bow down to the greatness that is SS!

superstoner1 said:

Damn i just need to let og take over my thread.

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Yeah, screw you, I'm changing everything!!!!

BleedsGreen said:

Fuck that! Everything I learned is from you and OD! I bow down to the greatness that is SS!

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All I ever do is repeat what SS has taught me, but I guess that is how it is supposed to be

You guys are soooooooooooooooooo freakin funny.

superstoner1 said:

You guys are soooooooooooooooooo freakin funny.

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You think I'm funny? Funny how?? Funny haha? Funny like a clown? I amuse you? Just how the fuck am I funny????

OLD DUDE said:

You think I'm funny? Funny how?? Funny haha? Funny like a clown? I amuse you? Just how the fuck am I funny????

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Funny like a clown? I love that movie!

Hey SS, what's the difference between the EZ clone misters and the berryhill ones! Is it worth replacing the EZ clone ones??

Same thing just cheaper.

Quick question guys.
ive been vegging since about new years, on some bagseed. (test run)
and i noticed 2-4 plants out of about 12 are definitely under developed runts.
my best plants are already sending out nice secondary shoots at the nodes. and are popping out with 7 finger leafs. while the runts still have baby leafs, and only small signs of growth of secondary shoots at the node, but no real shoots yet.

So this is my question. my plants are already forming a thick mat at the bottom of my vegger.
How do i kill off the runts, without hurting the roots from the good plants?
and if i cut away the runts roots, will i have a problem if some of the left over roots that are tangled and left behind, will they start rotting, or cause problems?
How do you guys handle this?

From now on, lift all the plants in veg up at least once a week!!!!!!! One trick is to run water over the roots as you pull them apart! Once you have them seperated, hose the good roots off which should wash away most of the cut roots! You wanna get rid of as much of the cut roots as you can, if its just a little it shouldn't matter much! Now my question is, how fucking big are they to have roots flat on the bottom of the tote???? Flower them bitches

I'm no resident expert... but two and a half months in veg!! Wow, I think you're gonna have trees!

I looked at the first pic and was an Instafrowny face , followed by a thought process that I am seriously shit at growing. Glad the pics were all mixed up

OLD DUDE said:

From now on, lift all the plants in veg up at least once a week!!!!!!! One trick is to run water over the roots as you pull them apart! Once you have them seperated, hose the good roots off which should wash away most of the cut roots! You wanna get rid of as much of the cut roots as you can, if its just a little it shouldn't matter much! Now my question is, how fucking big are they to have roots flat on the bottom of the tote???? Flower them bitches

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This sounds like great advice! Thanks for taking the time to help a noob like me
They are not as big as you would think. i have my 1000w lamp set to 400w. I'm not at home at the moment, ill try to get some exact numbers for u guys later.
i haven't attempted cloning yet, and the bigger ones finally look big enough to be able to clone.
and the runts are defiantly too small to clone. and thats why i'm deciding that they just got to go.

zer0ed said:

This sounds like great advice! Thanks for taking the time to help a noob like me
They are not as big as you would think. i have my 1000w lamp set to 400w. I'm not at home at the moment, ill try to get some exact numbers for u guys later.
i haven't attempted cloning yet, and the bigger ones finally look big enough to be able to clone.
and the runts are defiantly too small to clone. and thats why i'm deciding that they just got to go.

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If you have capacity for the runts I would keep them. I had a couple stunted Pineapple Chunk plants that I used just to keep the holes plugged on the vegger and since they had roots put them in the flower rails and they took off, turned out to be great producers. Don't know what caused their ultra slow start, but they had a big finish.