My FIRST grow GO HYDRO (PICTURES)

when should i change my lighting hours to 18/6?

im going to the hydroponic store tomorrow, gonna get an aquarium heater, some mylar and what kind of root de-tangler (clearex? ive heard of ppl having problems with h202) should i get?

over the next week im gonna try and sealproof my window and get my room to be very stable to prepare it for when i go home for 2 weeks. Trying to get my timers set up for heat and lights etc.. any suggestions??

My Hydro nutes are coming in thursday yay!

Heres what im getting:

BC Boost
BC Bloom
BC Grow
Thrive Alive B-1 Red
Thrive Alive B-1 Green
Awesome Blossoms flowering formulation
Root 66
MagiCal
SugarDaddy
Rootech Cloning Gel

Has anybody used any of these before? likes/dislikes? pros vs cons?

you can keep it on 24/7 until it they get a foot then slowly tart changing the light to 18/6 then to 12/12

till they get a foot?

motif said:

i just flushed my res, washed everything with hydrogen peroxide mixed in water and sealed up the holes in the lid with black tape
air & water temp = 74
added 1/3 tspn nutes
and added 1/3 tspn of some concentrated plant food, 10-15-10
pH is about 5.5-5.8
water 1/2" below net pots
week old sprouts 2" away from fluros

i got two questions here, if my nutes are 24-8-16, and this concentrate is 10-15-10, if you combine them, is that mean it boosts it to 34-23-26? was this a bad idea to combine them?

also should i put clear plastic cups or something similar over these sprouts till they get over,,, ummm,, say 6 inches?

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No, just like if you poured 1 oz of 24-8-16 in a cup and then you added another ounce of the same 24-8-16 to the same cup. . You wouldnt have 2 oz of 48-16-32. You would have 2 oz of 24-8-16...So, different strengths would get you the average of the two if they were in equal amounts...thus, for your mix 24 8 16 and 10 15 10 if they were even amounts of ferts, say 1 oz of each, you would have nutes of approx 17-11.5-13

motif said:

till they get a foot?

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Depends on how tall you want them to get before they finish. They should double or triple in flower.
Two weeks is a long time to abandon an indoor grow, especially a water grow.....good luck

one of the 4 sprouts is droopy, but the others are perky and lookin real good. droopy sprout still has great color to it and appears to be in great shape, but why does it droop? i would think over watering but they are all in the resevoir the same distance? i moved the air pumps around a lil and still havnt noticed anything new..

Whats the diagnosis on this lil one?

These seeds were all bag seeds. i got 5 seeds that came from a friends chronic bag and like 20 seeds off another friends bag of mids (Lol i know, its my first time tho shhh)

i think the 3 alike are the chronic seeds because they look like they got some good genetics. The odd sprout out looks kinda more bigger wider more lettuce like leaves, but in a healthy way.

i think lowering the water level was really good for it as it allowed the rock wool to kinda air out (my hypothesis) they are showing growth again, i think they were stunted by sitting a little in the water. I forgot to water then let it air out, thats why i predict their growth was stunned.

ill keep you guys posted if anybody is watching this

HomeGrownHairy said:

No, just like if you poured 1 oz of 24-8-16 in a cup and then you added another ounce of the same 24-8-16 to the same cup. . You wouldnt have 2 oz of 48-16-32. You would have 2 oz of 24-8-16...So, different strengths would get you the average of the two if they were in equal amounts...thus, for your mix 24 8 16 and 10 15 10 if they were even amounts of ferts, say 1 oz of each, you would have nutes of approx 17-11.5-13

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....what is the best ratio? For seedlings/sprouts? Veg? Flower?

this is vital information, please train a noob

*P.S.*
you can tell by the photos i upgraded my aluminum foil to SunFilm "Maximum Reflectivity" ... i can already tell the sprouts are lovin it, makes me happy, unless they fucking turn out to be males then ill be pissed.

- I plan on getting a ppm meter here in the next few days, stay tuned! ...is there any other hardware i could upgrade to better this harvest??

your nutes you are getting tomorrow will have ratios for seedling, 1-2 weeks old, 3-4, full strength, ect.

and dam that is a hell of alot of nutes you ordered. it may have been more wise to spend more on lighting and other equip. but you will have everything they need for sure.

motif said:

....what is the best ratio? For seedlings/sprouts? Veg? Flower?

this is vital information, please train a noob

*P.S.*
you can tell by the photos i upgraded my aluminum foil to SunFilm "Maximum Reflectivity" ... i can already tell the sprouts are lovin it, makes me happy, unless they fucking turn out to be males then ill be pissed.

- I plan on getting a ppm meter here in the next few days, stay tuned! ...is there any other hardware i could upgrade to better this harvest??

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HydroBandits said:

your nutes you are getting tomorrow will have ratios for seedling, 1-2 weeks old, 3-4, full strength, ect.

and dam that is a hell of alot of nutes you ordered. it may have been more wise to spend more on lighting and other equip. but you will have everything they need for sure.

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only $29.95 from www.HIDHut.com (nice site). Do i need a diff light for flowering? ....If so would a 1000w HPS bulb for $45 a good deal? and i get get a large reflector for it for $105, so $150 for a full spectrum 1000w HPS with large reflector. Or is MH better??

- HPS bulb http://www.hidhut.com/catalog/full-spectrum-1000w-hps-bulb-p-292.html

motif said:

what so what is the desired air/water temperature??

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From my own experience I found out that my girls do best when the rez water is 62 to 67 degrees during vegging & flowering and 70 to 74 degrees for germination and clones. I use an aquarium heater sometimes in my diy cloner.

My setup is in the basement, so the temps are pretty constant at 65 in the summer and 62 in the winter.

Other observations -
Add air stones - many.
Lower your rez water level to about an inch or so below the net pots.
Either hand water or build a temporary drip system until your girls' roots reach the water. Then they'll take off!

T5's burn the plant only when directly touching the bulbs. My upper leaves in flowering grow right into my T5's every day. I just keep raising it.

Knally said:

From my own experience I found out that my girls do best when the rez water is 62 to 67 degrees during vegging & flowering and 70 to 74 degrees for germination and clones. I use an aquarium heater sometimes in my diy cloner.

My setup is in the basement, so the temps are pretty constant at 65 in the summer and 62 in the winter.

Other observations -
Add air stones - many.
Lower your rez water level to about an inch or so below the net pots.
Either hand water or build a temporary drip system until your girls' roots reach the water. Then they'll take off!

T5's burn the plant only when directly touching the bulbs. My upper leaves in flowering grow right into my T5's every day. I just keep raising it.

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what do i need to add that to my 4 sprouts? teach me and ill go to home depot right now Lol

motif said:

when should i change my lighting hours to 18/6?

im going to the hydroponic store tomorrow, gonna get an aquarium heater, some mylar and what kind of root de-tangler (clearex? ive heard of ppl having problems with h202) should i get?

over the next week im gonna try and sealproof my window and get my room to be very stable to prepare it for when i go home for 2 weeks. Trying to get my timers set up for heat and lights etc.. any suggestions??

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There is no such thing as a root detangler. CLEAREX is for leaching salts out of your plants and reservoir. I wouldnt worry about the H2O2 at the moment. Being away two weeks is worry enuff!

ya i know, but if i can get everything stable, hopefully they wont need anything

Got my new nutes today!!!, im gonna throw in 4 tsp (20 ml) of ROOT 66 into the resevoir, then wait till i see the roots hit the water, then i plan on changing light cycle to 18/6 and entering veg stage

also got an aquarium heater, gonna keep my rez temp steady at 21 C

what do you guys think so far?

any new pics lol : )

mixed 10 ml of sugar daddy and 10 ml of root 66 in gallon and sprayed the leaves, and moistened the rockwool. Turned off the lights for the first time cuz i didnt want to burn the leaves with the light while moisture is on em.

ill post pics tomorrow..

Water temp - 70.5 F

Air Temp - 75 F

Question: should i keep light on 24/7 till they get about a foot big, then switch to veg cycle? Also can i mist them with the lights on?

sorry i been kind of inactive, gf came in town and got distracted, but heres everything going on right now...

pic 1 - top view of lid

pic 2 - depth/height of reservoir

pic 3 - air temp

pic 4 - water temp

pic 5 - air pump & nutes (and wiring)

pic 6 - Fan facing up, trying to get air under the leaves..

pic 7 - T-5 New Wave (full spectrum) 2 ft long

pic 8 - First seedling (16 days old)

pic 9 - Second Seedling (16 days old)

pic 10 - Third Seedling (16 days old)

pic 11 - view of how tall the seedlings are



The 4th seedling died because its stem was very weak at the elbow of it and broke off. The third seedling looked very droopy when i woke up this morning, i think what happened was this: Last night i watered/misted all the 3 cups and i took all 3 net pots out and let them sit in front of the fan on low for an hour, rotating the cups every 30 mins. I was trying to dry out the rock wool and increase root growth. Then placed them back in the reservoir and turned the fan torward my bed instead of the plants cuz i was hot Lol. Anyways i think that plant dried out and the air temp was close to 80, so i quickly put the fan on high on the plants and took them all out and sprayed misted the leaves and hydroton surrounding the rockwool. I think i can notice an improvement since i def dont noticed it "dying" anymore, but rather slowly regaining strength to stand up again.

Eventually i would like to start a SoG operation and put everything into a grow box, and also purchase a ppm meter.

Thoughts/suggestions/tips/advice? All are very much appreciated, thanks for reading guys, i can use all the help i can get, as long as it isnt shitty information

is my T-5 sufficeient to flower my buds? others have told me i need a 400w HPS to flower, but i only planned on spending more money on seeds/ppm meter/ (x) amount to build a new grow box......will my T-5 not yield more than the avg common cfl setups??

good news, i saved the 3rd seedling by watering the hydroton around the rockwool, and by misting the leaves!