My House Got Raided Today.

Sunbiz1

Sunbiz1

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Pat the stoner said:
I don't know if that could be witness tampering or not . We know the courts do things like that all the time. I never got to see the lawyer ,in my confusion I forgot today is a holiday and no one was there all day .
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Well, it's a holiday. Now dump the second wife and the adult child.
 
Pat the stoner

Pat the stoner

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Sunbiz1 said:
!. Your wife sounds like a typical naive Christian, and blinded by her own love towards a son as well.
2. Unless step-children establish a solid relationship with a step-parent, they tend to try and get rid of them. And it isn't solely for financial reasons, particularly in your case when it's a son and mother. The son always views the step-father as a replacement for the original, even at age 25 and beyond.
3. He is trying to break-up your marriage from what I am gathering.

Hope all went well with the attorney today.
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You are right on all counts . I am glad to know that not all Christians are selfrighteous condescending judgemental naive and closed minded , because the lot of THEM drive people away from Christianity . I thought forgiveness was the message of Christ , some times I'm not sure if she knows that - esp when it comes to forgiving me .
 
Pat the stoner

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Sunbiz1 said:
Well, it's a holiday. Now dump the second wife and the adult child.
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Threw his ass out when he called the cops again on saturday - he told the cops he was affraid of me when they got to my house and thats why he called them . WTF . I was not even here when he or they arrived , but my brother in law was here at my request during my absence in case some bullshit like this with this kid happened . Brother in law called me and handled the situation by telling the cops that the stepson had a day by day tenancy and it was terminated on the spot for lying , stealing , and not getting along/fighting with everyone . The cops said ok get your shit out and don't come back here or they were going to arrest the stepson for tresspassing , I fuckin love it .
 
Sunbiz1

Sunbiz1

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Pat the stoner said:
You are right on all counts . I am glad to know that not all Christians are selfrighteous condescending judgemental naive and closed minded , because the lot of THEM drive people away from Christianity . I thought forgiveness was the message of Christ , some times I'm not sure if she knows that - esp when it comes to forgiving me .
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Forgiveness is the message of Christ, only people tend to not forgive. It was no accident I guessed correctly on the step-son...perhaps before even you did?.

If it's you're house, then I would man-up at this point. Stand your ground.

After you man-up, you may have a different response...since you're committed to this marriage.
 
Purplestickeypunch

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Pat the stoner said:
Threw his ass out when he called the cops again on saturday - he told the cops he was affraid of me when they got to my house and thats why he called them . WTF . I was not even here when he or they arrived , but my brother in law was here at my request during my absence in case some bullshit like this with this kid happened . Brother in law called me and handled the situation by telling the cops that the stepson had a day by day tenancy and it was terminated on the spot for lying , stealing , and not getting along/fighting with everyone . The cops said ok get your shit out and don't come back here or they were going to arrest the stepson for tresspassing , I fuckin love it .
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Gotta love the trespass warrant. It makes explaining why you felt your life was in danger.....
 
Pat the stoner

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Sunbiz1 said:
Forgiveness is the message of Christ, only people tend to not forgive. It was no accident I guessed correctly on the step-son...perhaps before even you did?.

If it's you're house, then I would man-up at this point. Stand your ground.

After you man-up, you may have a different response...since you're committed to this marriage.
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I am not sure I understand - different response to what ? How? I have been exactly the way I should have to this kid except I should have never decided to let him move into my home .I don't know what you mean , but I have been commited to this marriage . Please be more specific . Thanks .
 
GreatwhiteNorth

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Pat the stoner said:
The cops said ok get your shit out and don't come back here or they were going to arrest the stepson for tresspassing.
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Step One.


Pat the stoner said:
I am glad to know that not all Christians are selfrighteous condescending judgemental naive and closed minded , because the lot of THEM drive people away from Christianity . I thought forgiveness was the message of Christ , some times I'm not sure if she knows that - esp when it comes to forgiving me .
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No, not all of us are like that.
 
Pat the stoner

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GreatwhiteNorth said:
Step One.




No, not all of us are like that.
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I know . I did not intend to insult anyones beliefs . It's just that being a Christian means something very different to different people . Like me and my wife . To me it means that I don't let circumstances change my values . Regardless of how I can make out better . She has said to me I havent been a Godly man whenever I say something she doesnt like . Because I am not Godly in her eyes she then justifies behavior that could be anything - including changing values . To make it worse she has a group of people who think they have a church telling her that is ok . To me a real church means helping people when there is nothing to gain from it not just helping those who give them money for it .
 
Pat the stoner

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Several people here have mentioned that a public defender is my best option . I have not had an experience that would lead me to that . I threw a sandwich and the PD I had told me to shut up cause I was already going to jail for 6 months - for throwing a sandwich at someone ? With no criminal Record ? I fired him in open court - cause that just scared the shit out of me - and hired an ex state trooper who became a lawyer - he had the case thrown out the next time I went to court . That was my only time with a PD . Hardly enough to make a call . That PD was just an idiot . Why is a PD my best option ? I really don't know shit about this but am sure I will when its done . A good friend of the NORML attorney here just told me $10,000.00 to have him represent me in this case , I almost shit . How does something that costs $400.00 to get into cost that much to get out of .
 
Sunbiz1

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Pat the stoner said:
I am not sure I understand - different response to what ? How? I have been exactly the way I should have to this kid except I should have never decided to let him move into my home .I don't know what you mean , but I have been commited to this marriage . Please be more specific . Thanks .
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There mere fact you are asking for my advice online would most likely indicate your relationships offline need a LOT of work.

I cannot help you with your marriage, nor the baggage that has created your current situation. I can only post my own experience, as it relates to yours. And it most likely will not benefit you under your circumstances.

Therefore, You need to make some decisions based upon what you feel. Sit down with the spouse and communicate.
 
Sunbiz1

Sunbiz1

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Pat the stoner said:
Several people here have mentioned that a public defender is my best option . I have not had an experience that would lead me to that . I threw a sandwich and the PD I had told me to shut up cause I was already going to jail for 6 months - for throwing a sandwich at someone ? With no criminal Record ? I fired him in open court - cause that just scared the shit out of me - and hired an ex state trooper who became a lawyer - he had the case thrown out the next time I went to court . That was my only time with a PD . Hardly enough to make a call . That PD was just an idiot . Why is a PD my best option ? I really don't know shit about this but am sure I will when its done . A good friend of the NORML attorney here just told me $10,000.00 to have him represent me in this case , I almost shit . How does something that costs $400.00 to get into cost that much to get out of .
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It's MLK Day, all government offices were closed.

Good-bye.
 
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Pat the stoner said:
Several people here have mentioned that a public defender is my best option . I have not had an experience that would lead me to that . I threw a sandwich and the PD I had told me to shut up cause I was already going to jail for 6 months - for throwing a sandwich at someone ? With no criminal Record ? I fired him in open court - cause that just scared the shit out of me - and hired an ex state trooper who became a lawyer - he had the case thrown out the next time I went to court . That was my only time with a PD . Hardly enough to make a call . That PD was just an idiot . Why is a PD my best option ? I really don't know shit about this but am sure I will when its done . A good friend of the NORML attorney here just told me $10,000.00 to have him represent me in this case , I almost shit . How does something that costs $400.00 to get into cost that much to get out of .
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Don't think "if I pay $10,000 ill walk away with this with only the minimum.. No sir that's most likely the retainer. If its not the retainer then that's just him walking you through the court system, if that. That's not even including the price if you go to trial!
 
MacGuyver4.2.0

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Buddy Hemphill said:
In texas they dont need a search warrant if somebody called 911 from your house...but nobody will answer the door.


The cops are having a buddy break into suspected grow houses...and if there IS a grow...they call 911 and run. When the cops get there they kick in the door and VOILA!! Surgical removal of your civil rights.
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In Colorado we have a "Make My Day' doctrine...and it's legal. You break in, you are a criminal and then you get shot in the forehead and die. That's if the dogs don't rip you apart first. All 911 calls are recorded by law. So when it comes to court time (if any) you have them pull the recording. It is also traceable to location...whomever made that call is now fingered. Ain't technology a bitch? ;)
 
Pat the stoner

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MacGuyver4.2.0 said:
In Colorado we have a "Make My Day' doctrine...and it's legal. You break in, you are a criminal and then you get shot in the forehead and die. That's if the dogs don't rip you apart first. All 911 calls are recorded by law. So when it comes to court time (if any) you have them pull the recording. It is also traceable to location...whomever made that call is now fingered. Ain't technology a bitch? ;)
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There is no land line in my home . The stepson called in the cops to raid the house to cover up his crime of robbing somewhere from $300.00 - $500.00 from my nightstand .
 
apbx720

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Sunbiz1 said:
There mere fact you are asking for my advice online would most likely indicate your relationships offline need a LOT of work.

I cannot help you with your marriage, nor the baggage that has created your current situation. I can only post my own experience, as it relates to yours. And it most likely will not benefit you under your circumstances.

Therefore, You need to make some decisions based upon what you feel. Sit down with the spouse and communicate.
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to imply that someone needs to work on their relationships because they ask for advice online is probably the most rediculous assumption i have ever heard. people come to this site to get advice from people who have experience with specific circumstances and subjects. i agree that pat needs to communicate openly with his wife, but theres nothing wrong with getting online and asking for advice from people who have had similar experiences.
 
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