my journal for 4000 watt 10x10

First this is my 3rd grow. ist one good 2nd one extremly bad

veg started from clones 1/27/12 under 17/7 (not 18/6)


I am usuing 4 1000 watt hps hoods, 10x10 secret jardin tent, 1 8" vortex pushing air in and one pulling threw the lights and carbon filter to cool the room and help rid the smell so the neighbors wont know I have a air conditioner / heater so i can better control my temps. my temps stay between 70-80 i also have a dehumidifier so my humidity stays between 45-50. i am growing 27 girls under each 2000 watt lights basicly a 4x8 area to put my 3 gal hydro pots. i am usuing roots organics soiless mix with worm castings, and peralite mixed in. general hydrophonics Flora nova drain to waste expert only thing is i substitute camg (organic) and black diamond (organic) instead of the
diamond nectar and i dont use the
flora nectar i use a different tea from the hydro shop. now i really hope they dont interfear with each other (the organic and non organics) its all by general hydrophonics.

I top feed daily right now they are about 2 weeks into veg and are anywhere from 6" to 3ft. luckily each light is adjusted to each size of plants under it. The reason for different sizes is the moms i can never take enough clones for a entire room. but im gonna fix that this time i have 2 of each in a mom. I am doing 40 blackberry kush, 9 grandaddy purp, 2 blue dream, 1 purple punch, 1 blue widdow. 2 kandy kush, 1 pre 98 bubba kush.



This is my 1st time with non organic nutes. so i am learning quite a bit. their roots dont seam as strong as they did with organics. but after the few problems i had in the begining (ill tell you in a few) they are the greenist ive ever had my girls. (bbk are all same genetics for all 3 grows) ok so now to the issues ive had with the nutes.

so they started out with the gh organics and got to about 50% strength on organic scedule. then i decided to use " chemicals" as i will call them. So i started them on the 2 week dose because they are over 2 weeks from when i cut them. and they looked like they werent growing verry fast so i went to full strength on the chemicals. now they are looking more yellow with burnt tips (nute burn?) probally dumb ass.... lol Just to let those know who havent used organics OMG they are so much eaisier. So i flushed them with ph'd water. diluted my resivoir to 50% with water. Now i use tap water but it wits for 48 hrs before i use it so the chlorine evaporates but i dont loose the good chemicals. now its been 7 days sense flush and they are verry pretty again. went out today and pruned up some. tomatoe caged a few. OK so BIG differance in orgaincs and "chemicals" is the ph. When usuing orgaincs i ph 1 time for my 55 gal res and i was good. Now usuing Chemicals the ph changes daily????? i didnt know that so i could of had nute lock out also before i flushed IDK??? anyways i just wanted to start them fresh so to speak..

today they have some yellowing and oragnge spots. (ca mg def) so i added camg to res at full strength. I dont know what my ppm are yet havent bought that meter. like i said in the begining this is my 3rd grow ever. sense last summer. so i am by no means a expert yet. i have read every book on how to grow literly, even oakstradam text book. But i do learn quickly. i started last summer 7 months ago never grew anything ever!! seriously, bought a few clones made a mommy took clones till i mastered it. my rate now is 100% survival. i have a ez cloner and i use oasis in humidity domes. (hate rockwool) Now i have 1 room dedicated to moms cloning and where they start thier veg. then to the tent for some more veg time till 3 ft. then to flower. this is my story on what i experience in organics vs non orgainics also i have a post that says what happened to my 2nd grow. https://www.rollitup.org/general-marijuana-growing/510632-trial-error-mites-aphids-grow.html#post7095959 OMG it was a bug fest so i had to kill everything and de bug everything before i started grow 3.



Here is a question for those who know? How often should i water? do you use chemicals every time? on gh feeding scedule it says to water with plain water just once a week. like a mini flush i guess. But with organics i watered daily and it doesnt hurt them. (no i dont drown them) because they are in a soiless mixture with like 35% perilite they need more that usual. but they havent been drinking as much as they did with organics???? is this weird?? I dont want to hold out on them but im not gonna try for root rot either will upload a few pics in a minute.

this is air intake in front of the mushroom hepa filter is a doggie door for fresh air into tent. and carbon filter for air filtering out of the tent thats being pulled threw lights.

intense. subbed. +rep

So i talked to general hydrophoinics today to ask how i am supposed to be feeding the girls and they said to feed nutrients every other feeding and to use tea everyother time and water once a week. boy i guess i need another resivoir now. This is weird with organics i used tea once a week and nutes every day. Any other suggestions let me know. Should they be feed or watered everyday? or once a week once every other day? IDK

so i am going to post my question here first then in problems if i dont get any responses. ok question on ph my soil tests at 6.5ph my reservoir with nutes is at 6.0 and why is my run off at 5.2? does runoff matter this is the first time i ever checked it. i read somewhere to check it so i did but now what???

Im subd for sure! Your shit is legit dude! Im jealous.

assasinofyouth420 said:

Im subd for sure! Your shit is legit dude! Im jealous.

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thank you i am still learning

im subbed m8 i got a similar setup im putting together every things the same except i got 4 raptors and two 12 inlines pulling all that heat out and im going with co2 this is gon be nice +rep m8 ill be starting a thread as soon as all is put together

berrykid said:

im subbed m8 i got a similar setup im putting together every things the same except i got 4 raptors and two 12 inlines pulling all that heat out and im going with co2 this is gon be nice +rep m8 ill be starting a thread as soon as all is put together

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let me know when u get it up. i was gonna go with the raptors but my friend owns a hydro shop and he did a side by side experiment and got better results from the radiant by hydrofarm. so i didnt waste the money. and the inlines i tried them first they didnt cool my room enough had to go to the vortex. i have a whole room of stuff i tried and had to by new stuff.
also with the co2 it only works if you have a sealed room and i have fresh air being exchanged in the room so it would be a waste of time for me.

i have a 3 mo turn arround 1 mo veg 8 wk flower. i have a mommy room where i make my clones and start their veg so they will be ready for next start. my average was 3 lbs per 2 lights with 28 plants on organics. i am hoping for 2 lbs a light this time i am usuing non orgainics this time and am told i should get double of orgaincs which would be 3 lbs a light!!! but we will see my girls are much healthier this time and ive found my groove although i am far from a expert. this is really only my 2nd grow (my actual 2nd grow my graandma was dying so i took care of her instead of my girls and they suffered) so 1st was same genitics except a few i like to try to put in here and there. right now i have bbk, sour d, blue widdow, purple punch, kandy kush, pre 98 bubba kush, blue dream, I grow for a mmj dispensary so i do this within the "laws" My next grow idk yet but i need to figure it out soon to be able to make enough clones to start????? what is hot out there right now? purples? kush? sativas? indica? idk.

i got a 8 inch radiant they work great i just feel i get more light spread and i could fit more under the raptor just my output idk lol and ill deff let u kno wen its up and going ima ceal the tent up i always wanted to try co2 if all is good ill leave it if not a big change back to intake and exhaust nut good thing u tell me did u get ur set up at monstergarden cuz that the set up i got but like u said theres a few things i gtta change i wass gon go with 6x900s but thats gon b to much hood in the way and i like the 1ks heres a pic of a few diesles under a 1k with a radiant hood



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i wass thinking 30 plants in total in my 10x10 with 8 weeks veg and 3 gallon pots or should i go with more plants have u tryed less is it the same yields/results thats wat im trying to figure out

berrykid said:

i wass thinking 30 plants in total in my 10x10 with 8 weeks veg and 3 gallon pots or should i go with more plants have u tryed less is it the same yields/results thats wat im trying to figure out

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if you veg longer i do less plants in my 10x10 with 4 1k radiant hoods i do 27 on each side i do 12 under each light and 3 in between i veg only 1 month i like the faster turn arround with more plants but u can get same thing from less plants longer veg. its less on pge bill to do less veg i get product faster. and i make my own clones so it doesnt cost me to have more plants.

Dude ur plants are sweet!! +rep

No i built my system myself one peice at a time with trial and error. i didnt see any package deals when i started it up. i just bought tent then lights then fans then more fans then new lights and so on lol hey good luck to u keep me posted.

thnx m8 yea i wass thinking less just cuz my bck hurts from all the soil i bring up ima swtich to hydro im going more towards under current dwc i got a producer box im learning in but i vegg until im done flowring so 8 weeks total so ill throw them in as soon as im done flowering same as u i cut clones and keep it in the cycle but shit i could imagine all the shit u had to buy lil by lil i bought a package deal not really a deal but its a 10x10 set that brings most of the things u need to get started this is wat i got but i told them to switch the hood to raptors http://www.monstergardens.com/grow-room-packages/10-x-10.html?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage-vmshopgreen.tpl&product_id=658&category_id=115 some ppl might say ohh u couldve just built it and saved money but im tired of building shit lol so i went my own rout but yea bro i cant wait till ur harvest u get 3 per 2k watt thats some good results for 4k watts hopefully i achieve those same results

wow ya u way overpaid lol. i built mine for less than 1k initially. prob 500 for mommy and clone room

whatttt u paid less for ur whole set up how much were the inlines and hoods i mean dam u got 1k watters each light probably ran u 230-400 bucks u only spent 1k bucks on that 10x10 set up hook me up bro lol

update update lets see some pix lol

what happend to the grow