elchupacabra
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i stopped scoring after i started growing...cut down a lot at least...but yeah that's what a lot of people i know do...or they make do with hash but hash is too hot for summer...
my outdoor grow in india (12 latitude)
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keshmonster
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I thought India's hash was like the best in the world. Like even some of the creams? So I would imagine they would have no problem making do with hash haha. And any thoughts on where the Kerala Gold is exported to?
elchupacabra
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yeah but you get shit hash to top notch hash here, less here than in places like mumbai and delhi...you get crazy cream in mumbai and delhi, not as much here, requires more searchin in BLR and your chances of being successful are a lot less than in mumbai/delhi..but you still get good hash in blr...
no idea, heard it gets exported to AMS, but i am not sure. just stories
no idea, heard it gets exported to AMS, but i am not sure. just stories
elchupacabra
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my indoor grow will be taking up a 10x10 space, using 8/9 400w HPS bulbs or 6 600w HPS bulbs to grow in a SOG as I am starting from seed and have lots of varieties to try. will be keeping a small area to keep clones of keeper strains to start a much better and even grow in a couple months.
rd2512
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Just into my second attempt at growing. I must admit that, individuality you have the most elaborated and beautiful grow, I have come across in this country. My first harvest, for some reason wan't very potent (probably because of the low quality seeds), but yes nothing beats the organic, fresh garden buds. Complete indoor growth is not an option for me. Any idea on specific branded nutes I can buy in Bangalore?
elchupacabra
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don't count on it...you'll have to make your own soil...
coco peat, perlite, vermicompost will see you through vegetative growth.
(as well as a product called BIOFARM if you can get a hold of it. it comes in
5-10 kilo sacks)
in a ratio of 10: .5 : 5 : (5 - biofarm)
for bloom you'll need 2 tablespoons of bonemeal (not heaped, just normal tablespoons) for every 6-7 litres of soil. it helps to mix it in the soil in the beginning itself, bone meal attracts rodents outside. they eat any plants that aren't flowering - vegging mary jane plants taste good to them.
don't overdo the bone meal. it might seem like little but it's a lot of phosphorous for the plant.
elchupacabra
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what seeds did you use, local seeds from india? from where? how long did it flower? about how much yield, any idea?
if you want branded nutes that will make growing a simple 'read from label, pour in soil' procedure, contact plant genome sciences in mumbai,
they are the only distributors for Advanced Nutrients in India. there's plenty of information on Adv. Nutrients online, I can't explain
it all...
if you're looking for purely organic nutes, there's also a much cheaper brand called Saosis you can find on ebay dot in
it's also good, but obviously won't give you the results that something like AN will give you. Saosis is brilliant as a supplement,
not as main nutes.
rd2512
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So, far I have used the local seeds which are part of the shit weed we get here. Nevertheless I'm awaiting my shipment of Bio Diesel Mass (autoflowering) and some Afghan Kush as a freebie. Also, I have been spraying my babies with Saosis A30, with natural compost.
I finally got just one lone female at the end, which grew up to a vertical 3ft. Yet, the buds were airy and overall yield was good for about 10-12 joints max, with low potency.
Any specific care to be taken for these imported seeds?
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elchupacabra
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my honest guess is that you may have just cut it way too early, after it shows pistils, depending on the
strain, it could take 7 weeks (minimum) to 24 weeks (some indian landraces).
most purchased seeds will fall in the time frame of 9-12 weeks from the onset of flowering.
the plant in the first pic and second look fine, are they indian plants? if so, yes your yield from one
plant three feet tall would have been pitiful. most indian plants take about 18(minimum) to
26 weeks (maximum) to flower. if grown outdoors, this means a growing period of a minimum of 5-6
months for indian plants, depending on when you plant them. 7 months from seed if you plant
it after september, and a year from seed if you plant it in feb/march. that's how indian plants work
they're native landraces. if you cut it off anywhere before 15 weeks into flowering, you may as well
smoke just mother leaves.
special care? hm if your plants are autoflowering, i'd advise you to be careful, as their lifespan is
restricted to 80 days or so. if you mess up, you can't get any extra time to rectify.
i'd advise you to grow autoflowering plants on a 18/6 schedule and shift to 12/12 for the last
2-3 weeks. they will not get big, maybe 1-2 feet max.
if your indian plant stopped at 3 feet, something was wrong, whether it's the seed or the cultivation.
all indian plants i've grown have never stopped short of 5 feet, 5 feet being for the ones planted in october/november.
i've had ones that would have grown easily 3 metres, but were tied down and as a result grew
2 metres wide and 2 metres tall
elchupacabra
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i forgot, complete indoor is not an option for you. grow it indoor as long as you can and then put them out, 2 weeks of vegetative 18/6 growth makes a big difference. : )
again, Saosis is a complement - not a substitute. and it must be mixed at the listed amounts. too much will damage the plant, too little will have no effect. for your autoflowering plants, let their maximum container size not exceed 5-6 litres; and sow the seed in the final pot, no transplanting for autos. never heard of bio diesel or w/e but that doesn't mean anything...there are so many strains out there
again, Saosis is a complement - not a substitute. and it must be mixed at the listed amounts. too much will damage the plant, too little will have no effect. for your autoflowering plants, let their maximum container size not exceed 5-6 litres; and sow the seed in the final pot, no transplanting for autos. never heard of bio diesel or w/e but that doesn't mean anything...there are so many strains out there
rd2512
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Thanks a ton for the valuable inputs. These plants are Indian. I forgot to add, this was a potted (12" DIA) outdoor plant. The seedlings were out in August 2012, and preflowered occurred somewhere around mid October, which I finally harvested in March 2013! Couldn't hold any longer!my honest guess is that you may have just cut it way too early, after it shows pistils, depending on the
strain, it could take 7 weeks (minimum) to 24 weeks (some indian landraces).
most purchased seeds will fall in the time frame of 9-12 weeks from the onset of flowering.
the plant in the first pic and second look fine, are they indian plants? if so, yes your yield from one
plant three feet tall would have been pitiful. most indian plants take about 18(minimum) to
26 weeks (maximum) to flower. if grown outdoors, this means a growing period of a minimum of 5-6
months for indian plants, depending on when you plant them. 7 months from seed if you plant
it after september, and a year from seed if you plant it in feb/march. that's how indian plants work
they're native landraces. if you cut it off anywhere before 15 weeks into flowering, you may as well
smoke just mother leaves.
special care? hm if your plants are autoflowering, i'd advise you to be careful, as their lifespan is
restricted to 80 days or so. if you mess up, you can't get any extra time to rectify.
i'd advise you to grow autoflowering plants on a 18/6 schedule and shift to 12/12 for the last
2-3 weeks. they will not get big, maybe 1-2 feet max.
if your indian plant stopped at 3 feet, something was wrong, whether it's the seed or the cultivation.
all indian plants i've grown have never stopped short of 5 feet, 5 feet being for the ones planted in october/november.
i've had ones that would have grown easily 3 metres, but were tied down and as a result grew
2 metres wide and 2 metres tall
I have a small box kind of indoor setup. Quiet small though about 12 X 30 inches, with 2 pc fan for exhaust and 18w X3 CFLs. Till no I haven't suceeded with this setup; plants just withered down. Not sure, but my outdoor plants get about 4 hours of direct sunlight, 6 hours of partial and bit of shadow, so this time around trying for maximum light, as hard as I can!
I'm also not sure about the specific strain. Just got off my first purchase on attitude. This particular strain looked good!
Timewasmoney1
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Is it legal to grow in india?
elchupacabra
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can never tell by looks. a lot of times pictures aren't even of the strain, they're of a different strain altogether. never go by thatThanks a ton for the valuable inputs. These plants are Indian. I forgot to add, this was a potted (12" DIA) outdoor plant. The seedlings were out in August 2012, and preflowered occurred somewhere around mid October, which I finally harvested in March 2013! Couldn't hold any longer!
I have a small box kind of indoor setup. Quiet small though about 12 X 30 inches, with 2 pc fan for exhaust and 18w X3 CFLs. Till no I haven't suceeded with this setup; plants just withered down. Not sure, but my outdoor plants get about 4 hours of direct sunlight, 6 hours of partial and bit of shadow, so this time around trying for maximum light, as hard as I can!
I'm also not sure about the specific strain. Just got off my first purchase on attitude. This particular strain looked good!
mid october to march is way too short buddy. 4 months is just 16 weeks, the shortest indian i've seen takes 18 weeks. you should have held longer, it was a poor return for the amount of time and effort you invested.
you're going to need at least 7 hours of direct sunlight, 4 is a little more than half of that. I can't tell much about your indoor setup without seeing it first.
rd2512
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Oh well! Never had a guide for an Indian strain. I now feel so stupid. Buying seeds was an impulse decision. Wanted to test, as how it goes. I have good stock of Bonemeal, Saosis and Cow Manure compost for my next grow.
The problem with light is critical though, I stay in an apartment complex, facing east. I was thinking of supplementing Sunlight, with few about 100 Watts of CFL. However, I was wondering if these CFLs will make any difference, when the plants are already used to intense direct sunlight, though for less hours? Any suggestions on this? Really appreciate you help!
And one more favor, any specific place in or around Bangalore to score. My sources are all dried up from the past 20 days! (I have tried from Kanakpura to Anekal without any luck!
daylighting
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Interesting thread! In my experience Indian sativas are lower in potency due to lack of selection techniques, but make up for it with a very good quality high (you just need to smoke more).
If I lived in India, I'd only grow pure sativas because of the heat and humidity. That and sunlight is free!
Growing indoors you can grow Dutch hybrids and indicas, but your power bill is going to be huge with 3-4 kW and you will need serious air conditioning to keep the heat and humidity in check.
I'd look into pure hazes and sativa-dominant outdoor strains.
Please be careful with your pollen and who you share seeds with guys, Desi strains are pure-breeding and there isn't much pure breeding landrace stock left around the world nowadays. Let's preserve our native landraces for future generations. Much of the cannabis grown around Africa, Asia, the Caribbean and South America is originally Indian stock!
If I lived in India, I'd only grow pure sativas because of the heat and humidity. That and sunlight is free!
Growing indoors you can grow Dutch hybrids and indicas, but your power bill is going to be huge with 3-4 kW and you will need serious air conditioning to keep the heat and humidity in check.
I'd look into pure hazes and sativa-dominant outdoor strains.
Please be careful with your pollen and who you share seeds with guys, Desi strains are pure-breeding and there isn't much pure breeding landrace stock left around the world nowadays. Let's preserve our native landraces for future generations. Much of the cannabis grown around Africa, Asia, the Caribbean and South America is originally Indian stock!
daylighting
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Guys, if you plan on growing outdoors, stick with sativa-dominant strains since indicas will rot in South Indian humidity and rain. Also please be careful not to let your pollen hit Indian landrace populations. Much of the world's cannabis is descended from Indian strains and we should preserve them for the future.
Please do not share seeds with local growers.
If I was growing outdoors in India, I would grow pure Indian sativas and select for potency and other desirable traits over several generations. The high of Indian cannabis is perhaps the best in the world, but due to a lack of selection, potency is low. This can be improved by careful breeding.
You guys can grow ANY pure sativa and haze outdoors. Sativas are the most mold-resistant of all. In the dry season you may be able to swing hybrids and even pure indicas as long as it doesn't rain and humidity stays below 50%.
Indoors in India, I would suggest using LED grow lights. Large scale HID grows in India are going to require serious air conditioning to keep the humidity at bay! $$$
Please do not share seeds with local growers.
If I was growing outdoors in India, I would grow pure Indian sativas and select for potency and other desirable traits over several generations. The high of Indian cannabis is perhaps the best in the world, but due to a lack of selection, potency is low. This can be improved by careful breeding.
You guys can grow ANY pure sativa and haze outdoors. Sativas are the most mold-resistant of all. In the dry season you may be able to swing hybrids and even pure indicas as long as it doesn't rain and humidity stays below 50%.
Indoors in India, I would suggest using LED grow lights. Large scale HID grows in India are going to require serious air conditioning to keep the humidity at bay! $$$
elchupacabra
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welcome to rollitup
nobody in their right mind would share with local growers because they know not how to properly cultivate dense rapidly maturing strains.
humidity is not a problem in places inland. cities like mumbai, chennai, and parts of kerala, anywhere seaside will be problematic.
your idea of LEDs is not bad. but LED technology is still in its infancy, it is not useful as far as penetration goes.
as for your stand on growing indicas outdoors, in bangalore it was perfectly viable. though it is considerably more humid than places like europe and USA, i managed to grow several indica plants outdoors. as long as there is enough air flow and the plants are not massive (which they won't be as it's pretty much 12/12 from seed) then there shouldn't be any sort of problem growing them. surprisingly enough, my indicas received heavy rains during the last 2 weeks of flowering, and no more than one calyx had mould on the day of cutting. these strains are papaya, NL and OG Kush. as well as mandala's hashberry. no problem whatsoever.
daylighting
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Namaste,
Interesting, my experience with Hindustan extends primarily to coastal cities, although Delhi still seemed pretty humid when I was up there! Maybe I should consider a move to Bangalore if you can grow indicas outdoors there.
I grew an Andhra Pradeshi sativa outdoors in a place overseas with very high humidity and rainfall. After 13 months, I lost 10-15% to mold, and this was an airy pure sativa strain!
LEDs actually penetrate better than HID and are between HID and lasers for penetration, despite what some might tell you online. The higher powered LED lights will BLEACH your leaves white before they burn them like HIDs would. They are also far more efficient than HID lighting.
What did you think of the Hashberry?