My Perpetual Zero-Veg Op

Do you mix bloom/veg nutes during flowering?

I have in the past, but I don't now. It didn't seem to do anything particular for me. I didn't see any N deficiency so why waste the juice? Using Dyna-gro, I boost the Mag-pro up during the first couple weeks of flower and that has some extra N in it too.

I can't wait to be totally rid of soil. Hydro seems to be 10x easier.

If hydro is 10 times easier ,
I would have no chance in growing in soil.
LOL

I hate soil man. I've been trying it for years and always seem to have something going wrong. My first hydro grow is going pretty well imo.

Coco ftw....

How much coco do you think I would go through doing what I do? Buy it, use it, discard it, buy it, use it, discard it. Water is where it's at.

Thanks for looking.

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but water is great too - just comes down to personal preference..

shnkrmn said:

How much coco do you think I would go through doing what I do? Buy it, use it, discard it, buy it, use it, discard it. Water is where it's at.

Thanks for looking.

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mantiszn said:

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Coir is the ideal medium for hydroponics.

but water is great too - just comes down to personal preference..

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Coco is just a medium. I use hydroton which I never have to discard; I just wash it. Water, on the other hand, is not a medium, it is essential to all plants. Whatever media you grow in, you need water.

What's with the commercial cut and paste? It doesn't really help my journal out.

nice job man...............i do the 12-12 but straight from seed...pull 2-3 oz dry per plant..........please drop by my thread and take a look......

facetious much?

i'll fuck off then bye

shnkrmn said:

Coco is just a medium. I use hydroton which I never have to discard; I just wash it. Water, on the other hand, is not a medium, it is essential to all plants. Whatever media you grow in, you need water.

What's with the commercial cut and paste? It doesn't really help my journal out.

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You've been doing good for some time now, man. I've never done 12/12 from seed because I've always been fixated on growing mothers. I'm moving toward a different model now where I'm not doing zero-veg and taking clones from plants right before I flower them so each generation becomes mother to the next. Old plants suck

del66666 said:

nice job man...............i do the 12-12 but straight from seed...pull 2-3 oz dry per plant..........please drop by my thread and take a look......

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shnkrmn said:

You've been doing good for some time now, man. I've never done 12/12 from seed because I've always been fixated on growing mothers. I'm moving toward a different model now where I'm not doing zero-veg and taking clones from plants right before I flower them so each generation becomes mother to the next. Old plants suck

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why do you say old plants suck? im moving away from fem seeds, made my own strain 4-5 years ago..going to buy regs and breed my own from now on, some of the fem versions just dont seem to cut it...

Old plants get, well, old. They get root-bound, mite-infested, too big; they shade out the young ones nearby. So they end up needing maintenance that is energy I could just as well devote to making new, young vigorous plants. Once they are about 6 months old I start thinking about when I'm going to kill them. I've grown ridiculously large plants in my space because I'm too soft-hearted to discard them.

Breeding is not something I'm ready for yet. The last couple years have been great as far as learning to grow reliably and productively. And there are soooo many strains out there I've never even sniffed before. Can't start breeding plants without knowing what you want! I have never grown a sativa in my life and I'm shopping for one or two now. I am tired of indica.

shnkrmn said:

I have never grown a sativa in my life and I'm shopping for one or two now. I am tired of indica.

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Check out Willie Nelson by Reeferman. It's supposed to be the bomb pure sativa from what I've read. Hempdepot has 20 seeds for like $105, damn good deal. Also I'd check out sannie's sativas, the have a sativa pack that looks nice. Killing Fields looks amazing! Good luck with your sativa hunt bro!

shnkrmn said:

How much coco do you think I would go through doing what I do? Buy it, use it, discard it, buy it, use it, discard it. Water is where it's at.

Thanks for looking.

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Exactly. I'm going to dump my old nutes down the sump pump well, and let it pump out in the yard. I'm basically spending every cent I have the next 2 months to get totally converted to hydro. Sure I'll be broke for awhile, but its going to be totally worth it once its going good. I knew this whole process of getting setup was going to take 1+ years just to get a good feel for it.

Let us know which sativas you pick!

Uber stretchy.

I'm quoting myself here, because I want to note that I don't use this high a feed anymore. I just use 5ml each of bloom and protekt and the 3ml magpro. runs more like 1000ppm. Plants seem to like it. The ones I have finishing up look pretty crappy. I had such high out of control humidity in here this spring that plants were having a hard time transpiring so they show quite a bit of heat damage. Dunno how the crop will be, still got another few weeks to go on them. . . .

I've replaced all my 6 inch ducting with insulated ducting. Taped it tight at every joint. The system runs much tighter and quieter now. The only thing I can hear is the fan itself, instead of the ductwork rumbling. 25$ and 90 minutes work. Nice. 6 inch vortex definitely cools all three lights and the exhaust heats my garage to boot!

shnkrmn said:

I go with equal amounts of Protekt and Bloom. 7.5ml of each and 3ml of Magpro. Should come out to about 1300ppm. I flood right after the lights come on and a couple hours before they turn off. I used to flood three times a day, but I've found it isn't necessary, unless you don't have good roots yet and they start flopping when you first put them under the big light.

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