my plants are dying ahhhhh

drewby

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Well not very happy,not sure what has happened but in the last month every plant I have has become sickly right around time to flower,bought cal mag about a month ago asked for some recommendations on use never got any but ,don't think that is the cause,I thought i was treating a mag nesse and cal,deficiency,but they are just getting worse,all under growth is dying leaves tare off very easy ,top of the plants looked fine,I thought maybe to much water so I pulled them from their 5 gallon buckets ,washed the roots completely clean and re planted ,going threw transplant shock right now not sure all will recover ahhhhhh,still not really sure what is wrong ph is good about 6.5 nuts are not to hot no burn,no crow's claw,had been the biggest and healthiest I have grown,stalk on few are as big as 1 gallon milk jug lid,lots and lots of roots pretty white ,so that kind of ruled out rot root or over water,hopefully they survive transplant shock,these plants are almost 5 foot,very troubled by this,in my last above pics you can see,bottoms dying that was when I bought the Cal mag really thought that was it,or was what they needed grrr now not sure,I keep my room clean,is swept and do the floors and walls few times a grow with bleach and plants removed and room aired out,even if I can not save these would really like to know what I have been up against,so a correction can be made or I will know if I encounter in the future,any help or thoughts would be greatly appreciated ,I need to flower them or they won't fit in this room if I keep going to much longer
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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the pictures aren't very clear, looks like your soil is very heavy and doesn't drain well, and thats leading to unhealthy conditions for your roots, which is making the problem worse.
i'd say either chronic over watering, or a bad root problem making it look that way
 

SwitchHitter

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they won't fit in this room if I keep going to much longer
Chop their freaking heads OFF!! Is it possible you damaged the roots when you were transplanting? I have root pruned a little too much before and had a plant keel over and die too. Such is life
 

drewby

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started dealing with this about a month ago,when i transplanted the other day was a last resort ,they have 5-7 pounds of roots on each plant,I pulled them because i thought root rot which would have explained many of the symptoms,but roots were white and lots of them,They look like hell right now ,I think the water may have been to chilly while washing the roots and shocked them worse,I transplanted into new buckets with new soil after the root washing so as if thit had been root rot,I would be free of infected soil,But may have put the nail in the coffin by doing so was just out of options,,I think they dried out and I over watered about month back but just kept getting worse ,bought cal mag and didn't help,has been frustrating,think they need 10 gallon containers more roots in there then I have ever had and stalk size and then just got sick
 

drewby

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here are some better pics,sick to my stomach over this sad very sad they were super happy and healthy and it started and they just kept getting worse,when I replanted i just threw them in some black cow mixed with pennington,as I was in a pinch I genrally mix my own soil but just needed new clean medium incase I had been dealing with fungus,
 

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Jypsy Dog

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You LOVED her to death... Saw the tag 3rd times a charm... You gotta give 1/2 of anything until they ask for more. My only advise would be no food, pH'd water with hydroguard. Good luck man. Next grow try a 7 gallon Smart Pot. Tuff to drown them.
 

drewby

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I found the problem,,,with them looking as poor as they do ,is a bit easier to see in threw them ,as they had been very full robust plants,today I found webs one of the sickest,on the poor suffering plant,I believe you will agree these are red spider mites,smh,this is what I get for going back to work I have not had near the time in my garden this go round ,If not for the one web I found today still would not know they were there,,had to throw them under my scope to see them really, never had mites before, got em now
 

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drewby

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No worries guys,Thank you all for trying to help me pinpoint the problem, I was wrong too, I thought I had overdone or underdone something and have been trying to correct a deficiency ,instead of a infestation,will keep posting on it
 

drewby

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Well went thru and cut them back to 2 foot or so,removed all dead or dying parts , vacuumed the plants to removed mites, and sprayed the snot out of them ,they may pull thru,will have to see,really hated to cut them back but my room will grow a six foot plant was almost at 5 ,they could not stay in there ,if i did not trim them back,still hated it , looks like the mites are dead, or dying been looking at them on few different leaves ,I have removed,,soapy water took a lot of them out,and went and got some mit O cide called AVID from a friend,potent crap,4 ounces per hundred gallons lol ,I figured it to be about 8 drops to a gallon,Have taken my scope and went and looked at 2 other peoples grows and found bugs at one mold at the other seems like gonna be a hairy year at least i found there's before there plants got bad,here is few pics of my butcher job ahhh poor things,also got me few 10 gallon totes gonna replant these things if they live in few weeks,as there was more roots than dirt in many lol these guys were just coming up on 3 months old would have been flowering them but they were getting sick and could not get a handle on it ,well got one now,mites will be extinct when I am done,will be adding a miticide to my routine as well,learning xp some is free some we pay for,i payed for this lesson ,word of advice if you have a scope take a leaf on occasion and peak at it,wish like heck I had
 

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tpc_mikey

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Well went thru and cut them back to 2 foot or so,removed all dead or dying parts , vacuumed the plants to removed mites, and sprayed the snot out of them ,they may pull thru,will have to see,really hated to cut them back but my room will grow a six foot plant was almost at 5 ,they could not stay in there ,if i did not trim them back,still hated it , looks like the mites are dead, or dying been looking at them on few different leaves ,I have removed,,soapy water took a lot of them out,and went and got some mit O cide called AVID from a friend,potent crap,4 ounces per hundred gallons lol ,I figured it to be about 8 drops to a gallon,Have taken my scope and went and looked at 2 other peoples grows and found bugs at one mold at the other seems like gonna be a hairy year at least i found there's before there plants got bad,here is few pics of my butcher job ahhh poor things,also got me few 10 gallon totes gonna replant these things if they live in few weeks,as there was more roots than dirt in many lol these guys were just coming up on 3 months old would have been flowering them but they were getting sick and could not get a handle on it ,well got one now,mites will be extinct when I am done,will be adding a miticide to my routine as well,learning xp some is free some we pay for,i payed for this lesson ,word of advice if you have a scope take a leaf on occasion and peak at it,wish like heck I had
Man i sure feel for ya that sucks, you have put those plants through so much stress they will more then likely hermie, i agree with another poster you need them in much bigger pots and preferbly smart pots, if you have a limit on height you should do some LST or scrog them. and that soil looks like it could use alot more perlite looks way to dense gonna hold way to much moisture for 2 long. jmho.
 

whitebb2727

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Captain jacks spinosad.

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I don't think the mites did it. Mites are the byproduct of a sick plant.

The soil looks heavy with wood chips. It needs drainage. Sand or perlite. No wood chips if there is a lot it will rob N from the soil as it decays.

They were root bound. Chroninc under water. Shocked from the cold water and transplant and mites attacked the weak plant.

Raise light to allow recovery.

Mix spinosad according to directions and thoroughly spray the whole plant at least twice a few days apart.

Add it to your water a couple times for systemic action.

Water only for a bit.
 
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