My thoughts on the 2016 US presidential election

RickyBobby26

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I'm obviously disappointed Clinton didn't win since her views more closely align with mine, even as an establishment democrat, than Trump's. Full disclosure, I didn't vote for her since I live in CA and I knew she would win this state whether I voted for her or not, and she was the 5th person to win the popular vote but still lose the nomination.

So how did this happen? There are so many different variables we could talk about that led to this, but I'd like to talk about what I think is the main reason she lost; DNC and media collusion/establishment politics

Donald Trump created an image highlighting anti-establishment rhetoric, anti-NAFTA, anti-TPP, anti-free trade, for the poor and middle classes, for working men and American jobs, the people who've been affected the most by corporatist policy.

At the same time, Bernie Sanders was creating a populist movement within the democratic party where young people everywhere were excited and enthusiastic about participating in the political process. Then the DNC rigged the primary against him to ensure a Clinton victory. Establishment shills on the left accepted it believing that even if she had to cheat, Hillary Clinton would be our best shot at beating Donald Trump, even though the numbers didn't represent that, and she couldn't do that. She couldn't defeat Donald fucking Trump..

These people lost us the supreme court for a generation at least, they emboldened the alt-right and they ended all progress on climate change, LGBT rights, the war on drugs, the private prison industry, foreign policy, etc.

Personally, I think the people responsible for blatant election fraud at the DNC and within the Clinton campaign should be held accountable to the full extent of the law, and I'd love to see president Trump enforce it. They defrauded millions of Americans with their bullshit.


And to anyone who has given Sanders supporters shit during this election; we fucking told you.

We told you exactly what was going to happen. I really hope you learn something from this monumental fuck up you're responsible for getting us all into.
Agreed, for the most part.

But on the bright side, I think Iran's nuclear program days are numbered, probably with only 2 digits.
 

Rrog

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I would have been creeped out by hillery's picks, too. Two creepy candidates picking more creepy people
 

natureboygrower

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I would have been creeped out by hillery's picks, too. Two creepy candidates picking more creepy people
agreed.that's part of the problem though isn't it? if you're an unknown politician there's 'not enough experience ' and it's more of the same with the career criminals
 

Rrog

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Trump was an unknown politician and he's lined up a group of Washington insiders. Hope they guide well
 

natureboygrower

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Trump was an unknown politician and he's lined up a group of Washington insiders. Hope they guide well
I understand everybody's apprehension with trump.I'm apprehensive as well. I plan on doing the same thing as if hillary was voted in.Keep working and providing for me and my own,one day at a time.I'm not going to give up because of who our president is.some already have,and it will be a long 4 years for them.
 

schuylaar

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I would love to have worked with Obama when he became president. But he told me " elections have consequences". Republicans go to back of the bus. ...

But I'm not like that, and neither is Trump. There will be regulations eliminated soon enough. But we also want to protect the environment. Clean air, clean water etc. The idea is to get rid of unnecessary job killing regulations. So we are counting on you guys to inform us of all the ecological risks involved. We can all work together as a team, and create jobs/energy Independence at the same time.
Why are regulations job killing?
 

Rrog

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"Regulations" translates to lost profits.

This was made a bad word by corporations who lose profit when they have to be safe or non polluting.

"Big government" is another catch phrase.

This translates to "someone watching that I'm not breaking the law. I'd rather not have someone hindering my profits"
 

Rrog

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The answer isn't deregulation or eliminating minimum wage. The answer is applying various financial pressure to equalize the cost of imported goods. Tax, tariff whatev.

All of this overseas labor has simply fueled their infrastructure, not ours

We have been told that a $0.19 toothbrush is needed and such actions would only raise the price of toothbrushes and the poor can't afford them. This is another bullshit sound bite created by corporations that profit heavily from cheap overseas labor. Child labor is preferred, unless 20/20 catches and shames them.

Most Americans would prefer to not have 3 Chinese toothbrushes but rather 1 good one made in the USA.
 

Chunky Stool

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Our political system was like a sickness. Unfortunately, we decided to cure the flu with cyanide. Sure it'll work, but the side-effects are a bitch.
 

mynameisnobody

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Colorado is on the Vendetta list along with Cali....as are all the blue states, we will be under attack from all federal angles.
You know how to dig a hole, dig a deep one get in and pull the top over you.
Their watching you now feel the eyes on you. Feds are not a problem just show them that your armed and will shoot and they will fade away........as will everything else.......
 

schuylaar

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"Regulations" translates to lost profits.

This was made a bad word by corporations who lose profit when they have to be safe or non polluting.

"Big government" is another catch phrase.

This translates to "someone watching that I'm not breaking the law. I'd rather not have someone hindering my profits"
So then really they are saying let us just have Carte Blanche with safety, environment and employees..sad, sad they have rulezzzzzzzz.:cry:

What sick fucks.
 
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