Need help and suggestions on grow room

smoothness

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Well guys here's what I came up with after fours months of research and reworking the layout. I have a 6x10 room. I was gonna use two 4x4 spaces to do sea of green. I was gonna use Hempy method using 20 gallon totes. Put 8 plants into the tote in a 2x4 plant format. So I can fit 8 totes in each 4x4 space. Using 3-1 ratio perlite to vermiculite mix. I plant to prune each plant in lollipop donkey dick shapes. I plan to wait one month to veg before I flip. I have a 8 foot ceiling so minus the 2 ft for the light and light spacing and the 1.5 feet off the ground I ha e about 5.5 feet to have the plants stretch to. I will have two 1000k hps lights one over each 4x4 area. Both air cooled and im gonna try to use the window ac unit to blow cool air into the cooltubes to push cool air into the tubes with two inline fans one on each light and pushed outside. Got a big carbon filter. Exhaust air is pushed outside with a duct muffler to silence the sound. No co2 supplement since my budget won't allow it this 1st grow. I plan to use Dynagro grow and bloom. Along with the usual carbo additives like bud candy and sweet. Got reverse osmosis system to get fresh ro water. Cal mag too. And Dynagro protekt. Strains being used are: kandy kush fem, blueberryxwhite widow fem, black domina fem and special kush fem and maybe super lemon haze fem too since I have extra seeds laying around to make a mother out of. The plan is for me to make all those mothers. Veg them under a 1000 watt mh then collect a couple hundred clones and I even got a Ez clone 120 to get clones fast. Oh I'm also gonna use great white to promote massive root growth. So is this a good set up or should I go back to the drawing board? I plan to have 128 plants sog and I hope with the one month veg that I could get around a oz a plant then I'll be happy. I hope the 2000 watt hps would plump up each plant to get donkey dicks on each plant. Of anyone got any tips or constructive feedback then please give me it. Just please dont flame me or ask dumb questions that are too personal about reasons for grow and all. This is all part of my fantasy of being a criminal grower. I like to pretend my basil plants are mary Jane plants cause I have a vivid imagination. Anything said in this forum is purely fictional and will not be attempted.
 

psilocybindude

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Every thing i sounds good to me, just remember the water that leaks out of that AC is going to smell like weed so you might want to find some way to collect it and you should probably get your self a proxy to post from if you haven't i wouldn't post anything about my tiny grow with out one so with one of your size i would definitely suggest one.
 

smoothness

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Im using my iPad and I don't grow from home or does the place I grow from have any connection to me. The window where the ac is will be behind some tall 4 foot tall bushes so I don't think anyone would go a sniffing. But I'll buy some of those odor killer sprays to sprinkle around the ac. Are the strains Im using good for sog? And would I be able to pull around or more than an oz a plant with 1 month veg?
 

smoothness

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Actually this space I mentioned is only half of the grow op tbh. I'm sog one side and scrog with four big sativas the other side
 

psilocybindude

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I don't know anything about the strains you are using so to get an average yield calculation i am going to use the grams per watt rule, the rule states that an avg grower will yield .5 grams per watt per month, so if you are using 2000 watts i would assume at the end of 2 months you should yield 1000 grams, 1000 grams divided by 120 plants is 8.3 so that's 8.3 grams per plant, you could end up doing quite a bit better then that which would be 1 gram per watt per month which would still only be 16.6 grams per plant. Depending on how much money and dedication you put into your system you could yield more or less but as of right now since i don't know your level of experience i am going to guess .5 grams per watt per month which is far less than you are expecting...
 

smoothness

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but doesnt that rule change due to veg times? like if i had the same set up and i didnt veg at all i would still get 1000-2000 grams max? and if i had only four plants under 2000w i would get the same amount of yield? i read about someone who had the same set up as me without the veg for one month thing and he got 8.7lbs using 6kw. i would be happy with 20 grams... any less i wouldnt even waste my time vegging for an extra month.
 

psilocybindude

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The veg time is most definitely an important part of the equation a big part of the sea of green tek is the fact that you will be able to cover an equal amount of canopy space in less time, its all about the efficiency of the canopy space, sea of green works because you are willing to tend to lots of plants that will much faster fill the canopy space regardless of age if you are using a scrog technique with much fewer plants you will veg much longer to get the plants to cover the entire screen.
 

str8sativa

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but doesnt that rule change due to veg times? like if i had the same set up and i didnt veg at all i would still get 1000-2000 grams max? and if i had only four plants under 2000w i would get the same amount of yield? i read about someone who had the same set up as me without the veg for one month thing and he got 8.7lbs using 6kw. i would be happy with 20 grams... any less i wouldnt even waste my time vegging for an extra month.

dont over complicate shit or worry about yeild theory's yet just work on a successful grow. and honestly that is a little crowded you would be better off doing fewer larger plants.

and i dont see how you could fit 8 20 gallon storage totes under one light.


some people like to flower a shit load of clones with no veg time, some like to veg for a month or 2 and flower much fewer bigger plants different ways of doing the same thing. i like to veg fewer bigger plants less work and you can keep a lower plant count.

top you plants early!!!!!!! after 4th 5th or 6th node then tie the branches down you will get bushes
 

smoothness

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i know that kind sir. but would the veg time help the yield? what bout the pot size? i seen grows where they shove like 30 plants in one of these totes and still get like 14 grams a plant. haha no worries bro u can just chill i just cant sleep and waiting for these seeds to germ.
 

smoothness

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its a sea of green, i dont want lots of branches. i just want one big fat donkey dick cola per plant. actually in sea of green 4 plants per square feet is recommended. and each tote is 1'x2' so 4 of those would be 4'x'2 and double that would be 4'x4'
 

str8sativa

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yes veg time will always increase yield of single plant.
they probably know the strain well and how it will perform.

i would just put them in 1 gallon pots to start its easier to deal with a plant solo then whole bucket.
you need to learn your strains
 

smoothness

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He's being a smartass. I swear I thought this forum was for people who need help like me not for people to come and judge.
 
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