Need help identifying pest

Grandpa GreenJeans

Grandpa GreenJeans

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Isuzugang said:
so I've been having this bug flying around for a while. Sometimes I see them stuck to each other butt to butt. What can it be and is it the cause for my leaves looking like this? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!View attachment 3520745View attachment 3520747 View attachment 3520748
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Your unidentified insect picture is not clear enough for me to positivley identify. I am state and federal certified and liscensed as a structural pest control technician and a turf/ landscape/ ornimental chemical applicator. Your insect is most certainly not a root aphid, the antenna show that. The thorax, abdomen and head also show that its not. Its not a gnat of any form either, its possible that this insect is in its nymph/ pupa stage and thats why its stumping people. If you can find a series of them, line them up on white paper side by side. I need to see them clearly top sides and bottoms.
 
Grojak

Grojak

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Dr. Who said:
Say, just interested but, what did you guys use to get rid of them......I mean these are tough to get rid off.......We had a problem around 4 years ago and ended up doing a 3 step root drench..........No I don't like imid at all and we didn't try it, although I've been told it works.......Pyth then Botaniguard then Orthene......Worked..
Did the 3 step because several guys had big trouble with them coming back........We also sanitized EVERYTHING in the grows.

Doc
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I tried Azamax and struggled, SNS 203 and struggled, I finally hit only my young plants (at least 5 weeks from flower and before a transplant to final pot) with Merit 75 took care of everything, I also keep forbid around after some fucker passed me Broad mites, those damn things are a nightmare to get rid of… almost decided to start fresh when those things hit me (and I had no idea what was doing so until damage was pretty substantial). With Forbid again it's my young plants in beer cups or 1gal pots that get it, if I have to hit my ready to flower plants, their not ready to flower anymore. I caution anyone in using these unless they know what their doing and have the proper mask / hazmat suit to be safe.

Of the heavy duty products out there for foliage, Forbid and Eagle 20 have proven to be has the shortest residual time in plants which is why I use the Forbid over other products. when I have to.

Azamax is my preventative spray / soil drench in veg, shits killer but unless you want to fight broad mites or flying RA for a month, I wouldn't use it for those issues.
 
Isuzugang

Isuzugang

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Grandpa GreenJeans said:
Your unidentified insect picture is not clear enough for me to positivley identify. I am state and federal certified and liscensed as a structural pest control technician and a turf/ landscape/ ornimental chemical applicator. Your insect is most certainly not a root aphid, the antenna show that. The thorax, abdomen and head also show that its not. Its not a gnat of any form either, its possible that this insect is in its nymph/ pupa stage and thats why its stumping people. If you can find a series of them, line them up on white paper side by side. I need to see them clearly top sides and bottoms.
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I'll take some better pics when I get home From work
 
Dr. Who

Dr. Who

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Grojak said:
I tried Azamax and struggled, SNS 203 and struggled, I finally hit only my young plants (at least 5 weeks from flower and before a transplant to final pot) with Merit 75 took care of everything, I also keep forbid around after some fucker passed me Broad mites, those damn things are a nightmare to get rid of… almost decided to start fresh when those things hit me (and I had no idea what was doing so until damage was pretty substantial). With Forbid again it's my young plants in beer cups or 1gal pots that get it, if I have to hit my ready to flower plants, their not ready to flower anymore. I caution anyone in using these unless they know what their doing and have the proper mask / hazmat suit to be safe.

Of the heavy duty products out there for foliage, Forbid and Eagle 20 have proven to be has the shortest residual time in plants which is why I use the Forbid over other products. when I have to.

Azamax is my preventative spray / soil drench in veg, shits killer but unless you want to fight broad mites or flying RA for a month, I wouldn't use it for those issues.
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Mmm, Merit is Imidacloprid - nasty stuff......well, it's not getting out of your grow so I won't bitch as root aphids suck big time..

Forbid is actually quite tame for human exposure......I read toxicology reports before using and Forbid has no known human toxicity other then possible skin/eye irritation....

Good stuff! When nothing else works - forbid will BOOM DONE!

Thanks for your answer. I wanted to know what else folks were successfully using on Root Aphids.

Doc
 
Isuzugang

Isuzugang

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Grandpa GreenJeans said:
Your unidentified insect picture is not clear enough for me to positivley identify. I am state and federal certified and liscensed as a structural pest control technician and a turf/ landscape/ ornimental chemical applicator. Your insect is most certainly not a root aphid, the antenna show that. The thorax, abdomen and head also show that its not. Its not a gnat of any form either, its possible that this insect is in its nymph/ pupa stage and thats why its stumping people. If you can find a series of them, line them up on white paper side by side. I need to see them clearly top sides and bottoms.
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This is probably the best I can do. They are really tiny. An iPhone can only get so close and I'm using a drop of water in the lens as a macro effect. image.jpegimage.jpeg image.jpeg
 
Grandpa GreenJeans

Grandpa GreenJeans

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Isuzugang said:
This is probably the best I can do. They are really tiny. An iPhone can only get so close and I'm using a drop of water in the lens as a macro effect. View attachment 3521433View attachment 3521434 View attachment 3521435
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Wow, well... I can definitely see wings and that is something that's indicative of an adult. So that's not good because that means their old enought for breeding. You can spray for them but I'd try a dual approach. Diamatious earth is one, add it tonyour soil, when insects enter.. theyre sliced and cut up... and it wont hurt plants and is completly safe to humans....and like others have said, forbid or eagle 20
 
Grandpa GreenJeans

Grandpa GreenJeans

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A jewelers loop or even a child's level microscope from Walmart would work good for identification. Insect have distinguished markings like nodes, or ripples in their shells, they're all unique to each other which is why magnification is so important for accurate identification.
I can't identify them, but I did observe the abdomen, which is considerably larger than the rest of the insects body. It's also long tapered and just by looking at a blurry pic I can tell this insect doesn't embed it's self deep within the soil. It's larva yes, but the adults use this longer abdomen to lay eggs in the soil. This is a soft bodied insect, mainly it's abdomen and that why I'm advising Diamatious earth. If they're going to lay eggs, is gonna kill them to do so. And once layed the larva when hatched will have to move through the Diamatious earth which will kill them as well. Your main problem is travel abilities the adults have...WINGS. so to eradicate them you would have to use a spray. Good luck and keep us updated.
 
outlier

outlier

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Isuzugang said:
Wow that's great quality. What size is it I feel like the ones I have are a lot smaller.
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Gnats are like fruit flies (miniature mosquitoes). Your bug looks a lot bigger.

I agree with Dr. Who that you def have a mg deficiency and N toxicity.

Not too sure on the bug though, sorry :)
 
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Grandpa GreenJeans

Grandpa GreenJeans

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outlier said:
Gnats are like fruit flies (miniature mosquitoes). Your bug looks a lot bigger.

I agree with Dr. Who that you def have a mg deficiency and N toxicity.

Not too sure sure on the bug though, sorry :)
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Excessive N can lock out Mg. I'd lower the N and the Mg should work itself out. Otherwise foliar with 1tbsp/gal of Epsom salts
 
farmerfischer

farmerfischer

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Isuzugang said:
so I've been having this bug flying around for a while. Sometimes I see them stuck to each other butt to butt. What can it be and is it the cause for my leaves looking like this? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!View attachment 3520745View attachment 3520747 View attachment 3520748
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Does it look like a tiny wasp?? If it does you have a badass bodyguard for you plants,, I forget the name of the species but the pray on mites, white flys, fungus knats, thrips,,, they lay eggs in their victims,,
 
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