Need help with wiring up new strips

HardLuck71

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5 port is the max for lever type Wagos, though i have seen 8 port knock-offs.
I think you can get 4 wires in one port on the lever type Wago, but twist the wires together before inserting them into the Wago.
I just found these. Are u saying I should stay away from off brands? Wanna make sure I dont have any issues

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Rocket Soul

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What i was trying to describe is this: 5 port wago. 1 for the driver and 4 for strips. The each of those 4 strips does a daisy chain parallel connection to another one. That way you avoid high amps thru the first connectors (youd run each daisy chain at 80w max).

Ive used the 8way wagos with 3x 240 drivers with no probs.

And no, the max voltage would stay at 48ish, you dont have to add it up.

Hope it makes sense
 

HardLuck71

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What i was trying to describe is this: 5 port wago. 1 for the driver and 4 for strips. The each of those 4 strips does a daisy chain parallel connection to another one. That way you avoid high amps thru the first connectors (youd run each daisy chain at 80w max).

Ive used the 8way wagos with 3x 240 drivers with no probs.

And no, the max voltage would stay at 48ish, you dont have to add it up.

Hope it makes sense
Ok, so since my strips are like - - I would daisy chain the 1st one to the next for all 4 rows I’ll have? Am I understanding u correctly?
 
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SPLFreak808

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So I can’t run to the 1st strip then daisy chain to the rest? Damn, woulda looked cleaner wiring that way. So would it be easiest to use a Wago? Honestly, I’m still a little confused, sry. I’ve never built a light or wired anything up. I appreciate ur reply man!

I was just reading ur thread bout ur free Mars light and then u commented on this lol and wow. Gene has it out for u huh. Crazy. I have a Mars TSW 2000 and its working pretty damn well.
To put it simply, lower voltages require thicker wires to achieve the same amount of current, copper of a said density and length can only transfer a said amount of amperage due to resistance, if you go too far it will heat/degrade the cable which will also cause voltage drop.

Higher voltage = less amperage needed for the same amount of current.

Lower voltage = more amperage needed for the same amount of current.

Here's a nice example you might be able to follow, hope it helps.

A 10ft 28AWG wire running 3 panels at 30v/3a would create 11w of heat through the main cable, panels get 79w total but your driver is still pumping 90w, this drops efficiency by 12%.

Give each panel its own 10ft 28awg wire and now you get 86.1w total, upgrade the wire to 24 AWG?now your panels get 88.5w total, 20 AWG? 89.4w total.

Basically don't undersize your wire, if you parallel bridge them from light to light you only calculate the main wire assuming the bridge is short runs, the calculator below will help.

 

HardLuck71

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18ga doesn't fit in where? The poke in connector on the strips??
Proposterous!
Those particular poke ins are rated for 18-24ga.
Did you mean the 16ga won't fit? (It won't)
(per spec) (don't go out of spec)
No I thought I had 16 but I was wrong and I do have 18 and tried but maybe cause I didn’t strip the wire yet and its a tight ass fit. I did look up those Wago 2065 connectors and they’re rated for 18-24 awg so I should be good once I strip the wire
 

HardLuck71

Well-Known Member
To put it simply, lower voltages require thicker wires to achieve the same amount of current, copper of a said density and length can only transfer a said amount of amperage due to resistance, if you go too far it will heat/degrade the cable which will also cause voltage drop.

Higher voltage = less amperage needed for the same amount of current.

Lower voltage = more amperage needed for the same amount of current.

Here's a nice example you might be able to follow, hope it helps.

A 10ft 28AWG wire running 3 panels at 30v/3a would create 11w of heat through the main cable, panels get 79w total but your driver is still pumping 90w, this drops efficiency by 12%.

Give each panel its own 10ft 28awg wire and now you get 86.1w total, upgrade the wire to 24 AWG?now your panels get 88.5w total, 20 AWG? 89.4w total.

Basically don't undersize your wire, if you parallel bridge them from light to light you only calculate the main wire assuming the bridge is short runs, the calculator below will help.

Thanks, but I have no clue what I’m looking at lol. This is all new to me. I’ll see if I can figure it out tho
 
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