Need Some Help And Advice

HiImNick

Active Member
Right now I'm planning out my grow for this fall when I move into my new house, which was originally going to be an 8-plant drip hydro set up. I kind of ran out of money (houses r expensivv m4n) and I'd really like to know how to grow organically but the problem is I really haven't researched it at all :\. The main thing is cost--I want to spend less than 1800 on it preferably...

So my question is how many plants can I realistically grow with about that much money and how would I grow them with soil/organically?
 

motoxmom

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well i did my full set up (check out my journal) for under 1800 i got everything on craigslist except my ballasts (fire hazard) and i have a elaborate system, Good luck!!
 

Vindicated

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Congrats on your new house. If you can grow on the south side of the house, you can grow some really great bud dirt cheap. You can buy a prebuilt raised bed for $30, then fill it with 3-4 bags of Kellogg potting soil. A single 1.3 cubic bag runs only $5; it has peat moss, forest compost, wood bark, worm castings kelp, and bat guano. You shouldn't need to fertilize until 1-2 months. Then for veg buy some Alaska fish fertilizer for $6 at home depot. For flower you can get blood and bone meal for about $10-$15. For pest control buy some organic insecticidal soap and neem oil or diatomaceous earth. Figure on spending $100 for all that. Then spend another $100 on good seeds.
 

HiImNick

Active Member
Thanks for the reply Vindicated-- I looked up CraigsList and found that I can get stuff REALLY cheap used.. A little sketchy but it's worth the discount.

I think I'm trying to grow indoors to get results somewhat similar to Subcool's grow possibly using his 'Super Soil.' So let me get this straight about growing organically though--most of the nutrients are already mixed into the soil like the peat moss, worm castings, guano, etc. so when would you start using liquid nutrients? And what are the recommended brands? I saw that GH's Flora Series can also be used with soil, but I have noticed that a lot of organic growers make 'teas.'

How do organic growers flush?
 

Vindicated

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Most liquid feeding is done weekly or bi-weekly and powdered or granule fertilizers are done monthly or every couple of months. Neither is better, it's just a matter of personal preference. I would just follow the directions on the product, since each product is a little different. But your are correct, the soil should have all the basics and your just topping off. Nitrogen is usually the first to go which is why people apply worm or fish teas, since those are good natural sources of nitrogen. Later on the plant starts to use other things like Phosphorus and Potassium.

To be honest, it's a bit of a guessing game and most gardeners use their best judgement. Commercial farmers on the other hand will do regular soil and tissue testing to find out exactly what their plants needs. You can buy $5 soil kits and do your own tests - it's not as good as a lab analysis but still useful none the less. Just do a simple soil test three or four times during your first grow and you'll see what gets used up and when.

As for what are the best brands... well each seem to have their die hard fanatics but if you read the ingredients you'll notice they all contain pretty much the same thing: Nitrogen, Phosphorus, Potassium, and some basics micronutrients (Mg, Ca, Iron, etc).

If you really want to get into the science of it and learn which ingredients are really better, google the phrase (without quotes) "fertilizers + site:.edu" which will pull up articles published by universities. In other words, no forum bull, just real studies from people who really know what their talking about.

As for flushing... an organic garden doesn't need to be flushed unless you happen to accidently over apply your fertilizer. If that happens then you flood the soil with fresh water so your plant don't get nute burn and die.

Hope that helps,

- Vin
 
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