Need some seedling help.

Daveindiego · Dec 27, 2018

My seedlings are looking very sad.

T5 light is less than a foot off of them, trying to keep stretch to a minimum.

I was hoping to transplant to 3 gal pots, and sink the seedling a few inches deeper, but I’m not sure that these are going to make it to transplant.

Guidance appreciated.

Daveindiego · Dec 27, 2018

Pics are from 30 minutes after lights on.

Lordhooha · Dec 27, 2018

Daveindiego said:
Pics are from 30 minutes after lights on.

I keep my 4 bulb 4 ft t5 about 5 inches or so from my seedlings.

Kingrow1 · Dec 27, 2018

Water more frequently most likely, some have lost turgidity in the stems which should be impossible with adequate water.

:-)

Way2-High · Dec 27, 2018

Lower your light big time! They are stretching ALOT

Way2-High · Dec 27, 2018

If you can’t lower the light just raise the plants closer.

crimsonecho · Dec 27, 2018

Cut a straw lenghtwise, wrap it around your seedling and gently stick it into the soil a bit until you get the needed support. Be gentle dont hurt the roots. Bring your lights closer. When up potting bury the extra stems under soil.

Way2-High · Dec 27, 2018

Or just support them with soil around the base if you’re not comfortable with the straw method, definitely get them closer to the light though.

Daveindiego · Dec 27, 2018

Thanks!

Daveindiego · Dec 27, 2018

Light lowered, watered, and used some cocktail straws as crutches.

They shot up like a rocket.

Daveindiego · Dec 28, 2018

Mother of invention. I was going to make a new thread with this ‘idea’ I had, but I wmseem to remember people got upset about making multiple threads on a topic. Any rate, I hope this solves my problem. Thanks for your help guys!

Daveindiego · Dec 28, 2018

Serious question though, once a seedling droops as these have done, will that in any way negatively impact their growth long term, or hurt flower quality?

@Dr. Who

Kipn · Dec 28, 2018

id repot in a week and cover most that stem with medium. it will just mean more space for roots to grow along. id keep like half an inch above medium level of stem exposed

Daveindiego · Dec 28, 2018

Kipn said:
id repot in a week and cover most that stem with medium. it will just mean more space for roots to grow along. id keep like half an inch above medium level of stem exposed

Definitely. I had been hoping I could repot this weekend, but that looks way too soon.

Is there a ‘tell’ for best time to transplant? Third leaf? 5th leaf? Something else?

Kingrow1 · Dec 28, 2018

Daveindiego said:
Definitely. I had been hoping I could repot this weekend, but that looks way too soon.

Is there a ‘tell’ for best time to transplant? Third leaf? 5th leaf? Something else?

Have you not completed enough grows to know when to transplant?

Transplant when the roots have filled the previous pot probably 2 weeks at a guess for you.

Did seedlings regain stem strength after watering/can you now remove stupid supports? :-)

Kipn · Dec 29, 2018

Daveindiego said:
Definitely. I had been hoping I could repot this weekend, but that looks way too soon.

Is there a ‘tell’ for best time to transplant? Third leaf? 5th leaf? Something else?

id do it now but to be on the save side i say wait a week

Natethenewb · Dec 29, 2018

Daveindiego said:
My seedlings are looking very sad.

T5 light is less than a foot off of them, trying to keep stretch to a minimum.

I was hoping to transplant to 3 gal pots, and sink the seedling a few inches deeper, but I’m not sure that these are going to make it to transplant.

Guidance appreciated.

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There's a good thread on how to transplant the long stringy stems . step by step with pics. It's in the newbie central part of the forums. Highly recommend it helped me a few weeks ago.

Flowki · Dec 29, 2018

Invest in some small air pots, 1L or so and plant directly to those. Then you don't need to worry about transplanting too soon, you can leave them in those for weeks and even get the first round of topping done. If you are in no rush to reach max veg they also serve to bide time. You will end up with a very dense yet optimised root system in only a few weeks. From that point you can go direct to final pot easily. Way less hassle and better roots, less disturbed. A sure sign that you are ready to up pot to final (only attempt this with air prune pots) is when a daily watering is no longer enough to stop wilting. However if you were automated or didn't mind feeding twice a day you could continue in the small pot but size would likely start to become limited then, compared to up potting.

Daveindiego · Dec 29, 2018

Kingrow1 said:
Have you not completed enough grows to know when to transplant?

Transplant when the roots have filled the previous pot probably 2 weeks at a guess for you.

Did seedlings regain stem strength after watering/can you now remove stupid supports?

Settle down, grow master, I think this is my third of fourth time with seeds.

Maybe you should post at a master grower site, instead of a hobby grower site. You don’t seem to have much patience. Not too mention your advice being questionable. They hadn’t been watered enough? They had been watered 4 out of the previous 5 days. I think that they had been watered too much to be honest.

Daveindiego · Dec 29, 2018

Flowki said:
Invest in some small air pots, 1L or so and plant directly to those. Then you don't need to worry about transplanting too soon, you can leave them in those for weeks and even get the first round of topping done. If you are in no rush to reach max veg they also serve to bide time. You will end up with a very dense yet optimised root system in only a few weeks. From that point you can go direct to final pot easily. Way less hassle and better roots, less disturbed. A sure sign that you are ready to up pot to final (only attempt this with air prune pots) is when a daily watering is no longer enough to stop wilting. However if you were automated or didn't mind feeding twice a day you could continue in the small pot but size would likely start to become limited then, compared to up potting.

Thanks.

What would you up pot to from a 1l pot? I typically use 3 gallon pots.

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