New feeding routine? Any tips of when to use each?

I was really skeptical of the calculator at first, but I had made my own calculator with excel formulas using molar weights, etc, and hydrobuddy's results always came out the same as my calculator. Now I just use hydrobuddy because it has a much nicer interface than my excel spreadsheet, as well as some really neat features.

Hydrobuddy works in 2 ways:

1) you can input ppm of each element + how much water you're using, and it will attempt to solve for how much of each salt to use to obtain those desired ppm

or

2) you can input the amount of each salt + water you want to use and it will tell you the ppm of the solution.


The first mode is really freaking cool, and it actually works. The second is what my homemade calculator did already.

It also shows you all the element ratios you want to see (like K:Ca:Mg for example)

Uncle Ben said:

Yep, you're right. Guess the 6 icons of credit cards hawking donations had me thrown for a loop LOL.

I can see where a seasoned horticulturist, a manager of a large nursery operation who buys their salts in bulk and understands plant processes, soil chemistry, and plant nutrition would benefit from the program. Of course I'm speaking out of turn as I haven't used it. Have you?

As a horticulturist though, networking with other horticulturists, it is much more economical and time saving to buy 50 lb. bags of Peters or Schultz or Harrell's or Plant Products or from the dozen or so manufacturers of high quality water soluble foods.

UB

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Here's an example using my #15 mix to make 3 gallons of water for a DWC. One nice thing about hydrobuddy is you can store formulations in the database, and it comes with a bunch recipes built in. (Spare me the debate on the best NPK for now. I know not everyone likes 1-1-2, but that's not the point)




(btw, that total cost of 0 is calculated from the real prices I get for salts. It's rounding down)

Uncle Ben said:

Yep, you're right. Guess the 6 icons of credit cards hawking donations had me thrown for a loop LOL.

I can see where a seasoned horticulturist, a manager of a large nursery operation who buys their salts in bulk and understands plant processes, soil chemistry, and plant nutrition would benefit from the program. Of course I'm speaking out of turn as I haven't used it. Have you?

As a horticulturist though, networking with other horticulturists, it is much more economical and time saving to buy 50 lb. bags of Peters or Schultz or Harrell's or Plant Products or from the dozen or so manufacturers of high quality water soluble foods.

UB

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Speeking of crap, You have pallets of 50 pound sacks of water soluble ferts that you inject into your irrigation lines,,,yet you buy Dynagro, bullshit. Il be down on ur thread in a bit, gotta get cleaned up first, shits gettin deep

I don't understand why this all has to be a fight. I think everyone has something to bring to the table here.

My ultimate goal here is to save people money on nutrients. Hopefully soon I'll be able to post journals too, but right now I can only provide limited pictures through PM, if people really need proof that this works. Really, Jack's, dyna-grow or AN will work too as long as you're getting the right stuff (hydro or soil based) and it's just a matter of how much money you're willing to shell out.

It'd really be cool to see controlled experiments with and with and without Ni, copper, and cobalt to see if there'd be any differences. I know I'm not going to waste my time as I already know what happens when I don't feed these.

Jbone77 said:

Speeking of crap, You have pallets of 50 pound sacks of water soluble ferts that you inject into your irrigation lines,,,yet you buy Dynagro, bullshit. Il be down on ur thread in a bit, gotta get cleaned up first, shits gettin deep

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churchhaze said:

My ultimate goal here is to save people money on nutrients.

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Same here. I like to share deals, good buys, bargains. For instance I have a routine when I get behind the keyboard in the morning. I first check out the weather, then log into the following sites which I have ordered from many times. http://1sale.com/ & http://www.woot.com/ ....but I digress.

If you enjoy using the software and mixing your own stuff, great. It does look like a great tool. But for me there are just too many choices for plant food out there, which contain the info you seek on the label. You sound like a research freak and like to daudle which I admit to. I might spend a hundred hours researching a product and reading consumer comments on line at Amazon or Best Buy. Most recent purchase is my new toy that I got in yesterday. Everything you read about this tech marvel is true. It's really nice to have a thick, well written, very detailed user manual that an English speaking person wrote, and a U.S. tech guy to talk to! I am so damn tired of speaking to some Indian or Asian jerk hired by Sony or Samsung that puts me on hold so he can "check out his resources." Also, I buy manufacturer refurbs whenever possible. It not only saves me money but allows the manufacturer to fix any bugs. Got this one for $415. https://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-bdp-103/ Look at the HDMI inputs on the back. Again.....I digress.

I helped plant 12,000 grapevines a couple of years ago and the owner took my recommendation and ordered about 4 pallets of what I use. That's about (120) 50 lb. bags. Notice at the top of the page it's a custom mix. The supplier had it mixed either by Harrell's or perhaps they are only the distributor. About $50/bag.

Jbone77 said:

Speeking of crap, You have pallets of 50 pound sacks of water soluble ferts that you inject into your irrigation lines,,,yet you buy Dynagro, bullshit. Il be down on ur thread in a bit, gotta get cleaned up first, shits gettin deep

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I inject Jack's.

Uncle Ben said:

Same here. I like to share deals, good buys, bargains. For instance I have a routine when I get behind the keyboard in the morning. I first check out the weather, then log into the following sites which I have ordered from many times. http://1sale.com/ & http://www.woot.com/ ....but I digress.

If you enjoy using the software and mixing your own stuff, great. It does look a great tool. There are just too many choices for plant food out there, which contain the info you seek on the label. You sound like a research freak which I admit to being. I might spend a hundred hours researching a product and reading consumer comments on line at Amazon or Best Buy. Most recent is my new toy that I got in yesterday. Everything you read about this tech marvel is true, and really nice to have a thick, well written user manual that provides notes to be understand the reason why. Also, I buy manufacturer refurbs whenever possible. It not only saves me money but allows the manufacturer to fix any bugs. Got this one for $415. https://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-bdp-103/ Look at the HDMI inputs on the back. Again.....I digress.

I helped plant 12,000 grapevines a couple of years ago and the owner took my recommendation and ordered about 4 pallets of what I use. That's about (120) 50 lb. bags. Notice at the top of the page it's a custom mix. The supplier had it mixed either by Harrell's or perhaps they are only the distributor. About $50/bag.

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More bullshit, you were just saying last week how mixing your own is more expensive than buying from a store, you say sensi grow has no micros yet I can grow with it just fine in perlite. Il finish the rest of my thoughts on your thread, and just like you told the guys on your thread to come here, I encourage everyone to head on down to the "advanced cultivation" section and continue the bullshit on the "uncle bens gardening tweeks and pointers" thread. Or whatever the hell its called. AN threads are easy to start

Jbone77 said:

More bullshit, you were just saying last week how mixing your own is more expensive than buying from a store, you say sensi grow has no micros yet I can grow with it just fine in perlite. Il finish the rest of my thoughts on your thread, and just like you told the guys on your thread to come here, I encourage everyone to head on down to the "advanced cultivation" section and continue the bullshit on the "uncle bens gardening tweeks and pointers" thread. Or whatever the hell its called. AN threads are easy to start

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I encourage you to stop posting shit. You contribute nothing positive, no garden shots or journals, all you do is play lapdog for AN. You claim a variety of bullshit but put up or shut up. UB is a very knowledgeable and valuable member who doesnt steer people wrong. I may disagree with his politics and at times approach, but he knows his shit. You contribute nothing but excuses and wincing.

TonightYou said:

I encourage you to stop posting shit. You contribute nothing positive, no garden shots or journals, all you do is play lapdog for AN. You claim a variety of bullshit but put up or shut up. UB is a very knowledgeable and valuable member who doesnt steer people wrong. I may disagree with his politics and at times approach, but he knows his shit. You contribute nothing but excuses and wincing.

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Last post il make for a bit, what did I say that was incorrect? Does sensi grow have micros genius? Yes Does UB say he has pallets of solluble salts that can be mixed to any npk he wants and that he injects them into his irrigation & that he also buys Dynagro? Yes and yes. Im relying on your help in a bit so see ya down yonder

Uncle Ben said:

I inject Jack's.

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Ub injecting jacks is prol no good for your body. I hope you use clean rigs lol. J/k

i also wanted to point out that when I go this huge greenhouse facility around Mother's Day the whole green house is fed with jacks through injection system. You guys know how many immaculate flowers and vegetables you see when you go inside one of those places. I guess I'm trying to say cannabis is a plant just like any other it's requirements are that of a plant. It's isn't it's own category of special.

beuffer420 said:

Ub injecting jacks is prol no good for your body. I hope you use clean rigs lol. J/k

i also wanted to point out that when I go this huge greenhouse facility around Mother's Day the whole green house is fed with jacks through injection system. You guys know how many immaculate flowers and vegetables you see when you go inside one of those places. I guess I'm trying to say cannabis is a plant just like any other it's requirements are that of a plant. It's isn't it's own category of special.

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You are right on. Any water soluble quality fert can go in a dip system. Dont tell others though, only over priced fert will work. Has to be expensive snakeoil only

beuffer420 said:

Ub injecting jacks is prol no good for your body. I hope you use clean rigs lol. J/k

i also wanted to point out that when I go this huge greenhouse facility around Mother's Day the whole green house is fed with jacks through injection system. You guys know how many immaculate flowers and vegetables you see when you go inside one of those places. I guess I'm trying to say cannabis is a plant just like any other it's requirements are that of a plant. It's isn't it's own category of special.

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Yes, we all agree, they inject jacks or similar and dont buy liquid nutes, thats the point. Why would a person with pallets of complets salts by Dynagro, he wouldnt, that was the entire point

Jbone77 said:

Yes, we all agree, they inject jacks or similar and dont buy liquid nutes, thats the point. Why would a person with pallets of complets salts by Dynagro, he wouldnt, that was the entire point

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TonightYou said:

I encourage you to stop posting shit. You contribute nothing positive, no garden shots or journals, all you do is play lapdog for AN. You claim a variety of bullshit but put up or shut up. UB is a very knowledgeable and valuable member who doesnt steer people wrong. I may disagree with his politics and at times approach, but he knows his shit. You contribute nothing but excuses and wincing.

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how does taking over a thread for a user who wants to learn how to use his advanced products and claiming that anyone who uses them is an idiot and then going on and on about dynagro help the OP? these guys do it on every advanced thread posted by a new grower. it's useless and not helpful at all. the OP isn't asking for opinions on his choice of fertilizer; he's already got advanced. so instead of calling people names why not leave the thread to people who actually use it with success to help the OP out? that's my problem with UB and homebrewer.

ScoobyDoobyDoo said:

how does taking over a thread for a user who wants to learn how to use his advanced products and claiming that anyone who uses them is an idiot and then going on and on about dynagro help the OP? these guys do it on every advanced thread posted by a new grower. it's useless and not helpful at all. the OP isn't asking for opinions on his choice of fertilizer; he's already got advanced. so instead of calling people names why not leave the thread to people who actually use it with success to help the OP out? that's my problem with UB and homebrewer.

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Im posting on UBs gardening tweeks thread asking these questions, no point to fuck up the AN threads with dumb questions anymore when I can ask my dumb questions on his tips and pointers thread. We can all fuck threads up

if someone takes away from these posts not to waste their hard earned money and time, while educating themselves on what their plants need and how to get it in a proper fertilizer, my job is done.

TonightYou said:

if someone takes away from these posts not to waste their hard earned money and time, while educating themselves on what their plants need and how to get it in a proper fertilizer, my job is done.

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hopefully you will become educated as well on these points.

If you are throwin money away perhaps you are the one needing some education. these threads are proof to the power of marketing and lack of reading comprehension as well as disregarding of science

TonightYou said:

If you are throwin money away perhaps you are the one needing some education. these threads are proof to the power of marketing and lack of reading comprehension as well as disregarding of science

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that's your only argument and it doesn't even work. go compare the price of a gallon of dynagro to a gallon of sensi a&b. the difference is like $10 and that's with AN giving you 4 liters as opposed to 1 gallon. check out fox farms, botanicare, and h&g. they all fall right in the same range. you seen what h&g charges for some of their additives? you see how many additives botanicare has and what they charge? your point makes no sense when we look at the data in my book.

TonightYou said:

if someone takes away from these posts not to waste their hard earned money and time, while educating themselves on what their plants need and how to get it in a proper fertilizer, my job is done.

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Right, watered down plant food with feeding schedules designed to rape their customer's wallet. Capitalism is nice and all but buyer beware!