New light test and first grow

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Found it on a leave on top of one of the taller plants, 6" from light. Could it be heat/light stress or something worse? Is she lacking a nutrients?
 
Seems tea tree oil is a good repelant but it is not an insecticide. It is a good anti-fungal agent which I will keep in mind if i get any funus.

Just finished double checking every plant. Took them all out an inspected every one, removed any leaf that looked suspect.
Removed about 20 leaves, none looked anything like the first one. Hopefully I got them before they hatched.

Then I washed and cleaned and bleached the entire inside of the grow tent, sprayed and rubbed down every little bit.

Until I can get neem oil (monday), I have a idea I might try. I use those e-cigs and have a strong nicotine solution. Figure I could make a dilute solution and spray down the plants to keep those bugs away or kill them outright. Not sure what ratio to use. Its 24 mg per ml.

Any thoughts on this solution, if its a good idea and what ratio to make it ?
 

BobBitchen

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Have you checked leaves with loup? May not be bugs/eggs at all, looks like it could just be nut splash..better pic would help.
as in the leaf removal, don't trust everything you read on here, take your time & do some investigating into your prob so you can PROPERLY sort out the prob.
good luck

Peace..✌

boB
 
Sorry about the pic, was the best one I could get.

I did look at that leaf with the loup, did see roundish bumps but was hard to get a good focus on it. Did not seem like eggs but what do i know.

I will check the plants with the loup to see if there are any eggs on them. Going to take some time but worth it to keep the ladies healthy.

Nut splash makes sense cause I did mist the plants a few times recently, maybe should not have done that, just figured they would like a bath.

Thanks for the inputs, will not try anything till I get more info or find something conclusive.
 

Liddle

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Sorry about the pic, was the best one I could get.

I did look at that leaf with the loup, did see roundish bumps but was hard to get a good focus on it. Did not seem like eggs but what do i know.

I will check the plants with the loup to see if there are any eggs on them. Going to take some time but worth it to keep the ladies healthy.

Nut splash makes sense cause I did mist the plants a few times recently, maybe should not have done that, just figured they would like a bath.

Thanks for the inputs, will not try anything till I get more info or find something conclusive.
thoses leaves are def curling upwards so its an internal problem
 

Red1966

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Just took a look at my temp and humidty after running my system for 12 hrs. 30c and 35% humidity. Ventilation at full. Looks like I need to replace the HPS with something that creates less heat but can give that red light I need for flowering. Also need to get a humidifier in there, then dial down the ventialtion to a normal speed. Thinking CFL may be what I go with for new lights. Guess I should start reading.
The low humidity without plants transpiring water isn't indicative of what it will be with plants in there.
 

Red1966

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Turned off the HPS, now temp at 25c and humidity at 54%. Still looking into new lighting to get that red light without to much heat or power. I have some time as the Gavita plasma light has a veg foot print of 4x4 (16 inches away). When flowering starts is when I need the new lights, so I got time still to choose. I hope to add two lights (FL) on either side of the Gavita like my HPS where in the photo I posted above. These lights need to cover the 4X4 area by themselfs so my permieter plants do well(16 of them). Getting these ladies to produce well will be key to my success in the yeild department. I have big hopes for the one plant directly below the Gavita plasma light, or should I rotate my plants under the sweet spot?? I am thinking out loud, but imput is welcome.
I would rotate the plants. If not, the one in the center will be taller than the others.
 

kinddiesel

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you need to add more lights for that amount of plants. you will not pull more then half ounce a plant. I would pump eight 600 watt hps and get 3 to 5 ounces each average
 

Red1966

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Can't decide on lights to get to supplement the permieter plants, seems fluorescent may not be what I want for flowering even with the red shifted bulbs. Am I right on this? I would have to wait a few months to get any LED bars or panels as I am on a fixed income (DSB pension). Need affordable solution in a few weeks or its all Gavita plasma (worried about flowering) as Plasma lacks Red "Umph" for flowering IMO. Seeds still not here (8 days), coming from Barneys Farm, so excited I watered the soil for practice, PH 6.4. Added some starter fertilizer, small cap per 2 l jug. Humidity is up to 53% and temp 26c. Looking good in there I think (HPS still off and ventilation at lowest setting, dang that Gavita Palsma runs cool, those HPS added 5C to the grow tent so I need to replace them, also they lack the light to support my permeter plants during flowering. So I decided no plant rotation, will keep them put and wait till the end. Going to stay simple and learn more by limiting variables first time around. Any thoughts on this? Also my well water tested 1500 ppm TDS. Should I be worried / flush with distilled water?
If you don't want to rotate your plants, you may wish to elevate the shorter ones to maintain an even canopy. Your water is extremely hard. You should get a RO filter or get your water from another source.
 

Red1966

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I used to just go to the local grocery store and buy RO water from the dispensers for 25 cents a gallon before I got my own RO/DI filter.
So did I. $0.30 a gallon. $8.00 ea. for 5-gallon water bottles (X 5) with screw-on lids. Bottles are hard to find. Cooler bottles don't have lids. Hauling water gets old real fast. I bought a RO filter.
 

BobBitchen

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IMO....think about just working with what you have now & gain some experience so when you make a change, it's the right one.
Only way to fix a problem is to know & understand the problem first, guessing & throwing money at it may work but......
You have a great setup as is, dial it in first.
Maybe rules #1-7: ❶-❼ Patience

JUST MHO...
good luck my friend
PEACE
boB
 

Red1966

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Seems tea tree oil is a good repelant but it is not an insecticide. It is a good anti-fungal agent which I will keep in mind if i get any funus. Just finished double checking every plant. Took them all out an inspected every one, removed any leaf that looked suspect. Removed about 20 leaves, none looked anything like the first one. Hopefully I got them before they hatched. Then I washed and cleaned and bleached the entire inside of the grow tent, sprayed and rubbed down every little bit. Until I can get neem oil (monday), I have a idea I might try. I use those e-cigs and have a strong nicotine solution. Figure I could make a dilute solution and spray down the plants to keep those bugs away or kill them outright. Not sure what ratio to use. Its 24 mg per ml. Any thoughts on this solution, if its a good idea and what ratio to make it ?
Nicotine is an effective insect repellant, but not an insecticide. It may drive the bugs away when/if they hatch, so they'll be flying around the house for a few days until they die off. Neem oil is the better solution. Good luck.
 

Father Ramirez

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Quality is my prime concern, then low energy/heat, then yeild. I have enough plants that if yeild is low I am okay.

But I can't go with low quality, its for medical use. I am growing a high CBD/THC strain as research has shown CBD being great for schizophrenia compared to conventional medications. Less side effects too.
Is that why you're going so long in flower? They look really yummy. Nice work.
 

ButchyBoy

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They look like they are fattening up!!! NOICE!!!!!!! :bigjoint:


So, at this point of the game, what would/will you do different next round? I can guess not defoliating is one of them since you learned that lesson the hard way.
 
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