Nitrogen Deficiency? Going nuts over this ------------------- > Pics included

fdd2blk

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Cut the bottom out of the planter???
That thing is crazy looking. Like a fat lady with skinny legs, ready to topple at any moment.
there is NO reason i'd do that. :neutral:


it was simply a plant that i put in that pot and fed and watered until it was done. no gimmicks, tricks or secrets.
 

bird mcbride

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Definatly haven't used up your N with that lil of a plant. Stopp watering so much put it into a bigger pot with a few layers of perlite. Also too much calcium and mag can create overly dense soil. So cut those out a lil too. Mainly stop that over watering!!!
I think you got too much calcium and magnesium in your pot.
 

shrap

Member
well if "rootbound" means "rootball" then i guess i agree.


if you could simply explain the picture i posted i will understand everything.


if your plant didn't get enough food you should have fed it more. it certainly had plenty of roots to take it all up. ;)

root filled pots are not a problem if you know how to work with them. :blsmoke:
I dont think we are communicating well. I had 20 gallon pots... and a wad of roots the size of my fist on about 18 plants. That is what root bound is. A pot full of roots is desirable... a wad of roots in a tight little knot is... well not. That is what i refer to as root bound.
 

fdd2blk

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I dont think we are communicating well. I had 20 gallon pots... and a wad of roots the size of my fist on about 18 plants. That is what root bound is. A pot full of roots is desirable... a wad of roots in a tight little knot is... well not. That is what i refer to as root bound.
you didn't explain my picture.

i fully understand what you are saying. what i am saying is that doesn't hurt your plant. a plant won't grow itself to death. it works as one. the roots fill in the area they are allowed. they will not grow to harm themselves. it goes against all nature. :neutral:
 

noxiously

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Not trying to start an argument, but:

Here is some info on the what "root bound" is:

A plant becomes root bound if it is allowed to grow in the same pot for numerous years. In nature, a plant’s root system naturally extends three times the length that it does into the sky. As plants grow fresh foliage above soil they are simultaneously extending and thickening their root systems. If left to grow in the same space for an extended amount of time, a plant will literally suffocate itself. There is not a distinctive period of time in which one can conclusively determine that a plant will become root bound.

Read more at Suite101: Recognizing a Root Bound (Pot Bound) Plant: Signs, Symptoms, Treatment and Prevention http://www.suite101.com/content/recognizing-a-root-bound-pot-bound-plant-a127389#ixzz19Su99NKu

This is from 420magazine.com

Root bound is where the roots of your plant outgrow the container they are contained in. The following symptoms may be observed if you allow your plants to become root bound:

1. Stunted Growth
2. Stretching
3. Smaller and slower bud production
4. Needs watering too often
5. Easy to burn with low % nutrient solution mixtures
6. Wilting

This is from Daves Garden:

Definition of root bound - "When a plant grows for too long in its container, it generally becomes root bound. With no room for additional growth, roots become tangled, matted, and grow in circles. Root bound plants placed in the ground without having their roots untangled often fail to overcome their choked condition. This results in stunting the plants growth and potential.


Hope this helps clear things up, lol


Happy Growing :D
 

fdd2blk

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i fully understand what others feel the definition of root bound is.

as a grower who has experienced it first hand i do NOT find it to cause ME any issues.


if you could simply explain the outcome of the plant pictured i will be fully satisfied. no need to offer me any other advice or info. i simply want to know HOW i pulled it off if my plant was "rootbound". which by your definition, it was. that pot was nothing but root by the time that plant finished.


here it is again, along with a few others ........

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noxiously

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Well from what what I've taken from the definitions and what not, if you keep fertilizing it, I guess it can grow. Roots don't need soil to grow, i.e. hydro and aero, so as long as it's getting the necessary nutrients, and probably alot of them they could live in a smaller pot. What I believe they are talking about in the definitions are that when a plant is in soil it eventually uses up all the nutrients in the soil, and people probably don't tend to the plant as much as it needs to be and it has problems.

That's my guess.
 

noxiously

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I was pondering this some more. What kind of plant is it? My other theory, and it may be a little far fetched but it's just a theory :D, if that particular strain naturally occured in mountainous regions then that could also explain the little need for soil. They would probably have adapted to growing in smaller areas since the rocks would impede their roots from growing alot, so they would probably have evolved some kind of root system that grows smaller but has the ability to take in alot of nutrients.

Maybe? :D
 

fdd2blk

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I was pondering this some more. What kind of plant is it? My other theory, and it may be a little far fetched but it's just a theory :D, if that particular strain naturally occured in mountainous regions then that could also explain the little need for soil. They would probably have adapted to growing in smaller areas since the rocks would impede their roots from growing alot, so they would probably have evolved some kind of root system that grows smaller but has the ability to take in alot of nutrients.

Maybe? :D
3 different plants, 3 different strains.

things that i discovered-

they need daily attention.
- i'm willing to offer that.

daily watering, twice a day when it's hot out.
- keeps everything clean and flushed anyways. i'm already with them and it only takes a second to water them.

they need a lot of food.
- which also makes them hard to burn. i simply "feed the shit outta 'em".

they blow over in a slight breeze.
- i have to drive stakes down into them and thru the bottoms of the pots into the ground so they don't fall over. this method actually detered a thief this past summer. he made a mad dash in and tried to "grab a whole small one". little did he realize it was anchored. i still lost the main cola though. :(

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i hope i'm not coming off as abrasive. i can see where it may seem that way. i really am not trying to be. i'm just trying to get people to understand that a lot of roots in a small pot doesn't have to be "a bad thing". :joint::joint:
 

fdd2blk

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lol we certainly arent communicating.. oh well. Nice plants.
you are coming across to me "loud and clear".

is there something in my posts you don't understand?

i'd like to clear this up for you if i could.

"root bound" is not such a bad thing.

:)
 

brick20

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you are coming across to me "loud and clear".

is there something in my posts you don't understand?

i'd like to clear this up for you if i could.

"root bound" is not such a bad thing.

:)
You tell'em fdd2wht, the fucks a "rootbound"..?


Edit: I meant fdd2blk



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