No "cook" supersoil?

BillyBlanks420

BillyBlanks420

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Hello RIU farmers.. Recently I started digging holes for my ladies since they are outgrowing there 7 gal pots... I bought a pallet of Happy Frog soil conditioner because I thought it would be the cheapest base with the most ingredients already in the bag... I put one test one test subject into her hole today with 2 bags of soil conditioner a 2.5 block of coconut coir and a lb of azomite n Neem meal into her I'm trying to provide as much organic nutrients into the dirt as possible without having to cook it... Can anyone tell me what else I can safely add to my mix...I meant to add a 25 lb bag of all natural clay cat litter (special kitty) into it for aeration but I did not think of it at the time. It will be going into my other holes (13 in total)
Also the soil conditioner is supposed to be mixed in with regular soil would it be wise to grab a bag of hummus to mix with it or an organic garden soil? Any help will be appreciated
 
BillyBlanks420

BillyBlanks420

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Sweet thank you so getting some premium compost from my local soil place would be a good idea to mix with the soil conditioner? Someone told me that might b too hot but I don't see how when the compost is just leaf mold n grass clippings... N would u say I add the kelp and Alfa at 1/4 cup per cu ft?
 
greasemonkeymann

greasemonkeymann

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BillyBlanks420 said:
Sweet thank you so getting some premium compost from my local soil place would be a good idea to mix with the soil conditioner? Someone told me that might b too hot but I don't see how when the compost is just leaf mold n grass clippings... N would u say I add the kelp and Alfa at 1/4 cup per cu ft?
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for outdoor grows composted manure is a good thing to add, but that depends on the neem meal you added, which does need to be cycled btw.
alfalfa is good too, as well as kelp, but to a degree those do need to be cycled also.
if it is just a leaf/grass clippings compost, then I'd use that in a second, problem is most commercial composts are mostly forest wood products.
 
BillyBlanks420

BillyBlanks420

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greasemonkeymann said:
for outdoor grows composted manure is a good thing to add, but that depends on the neem meal you added, which does need to be cycled btw.
alfalfa is good too, as well as kelp, but to a degree those do need to be cycled also.
if it is just a leaf/grass clippings compost, then I'd use that in a second, problem is most commercial composts are mostly forest wood products.
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So maybe instead of 50/50 soil conditioner and compost I would do 50/40/10 soil conditioner, compost and aged manure?
And when u say cycled u mean it needs time to break down before it's available?
 
greasemonkeymann

greasemonkeymann

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BillyBlanks420 said:
So maybe instead of 50/50 soil conditioner and compost I would do 50/40/10 soil conditioner, compost and aged manure?
And when u say cycled u mean it needs time to break down before it's available?
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yes, "cycled" means the time it takes for the organic inputs to become bioavailable, via microbial processing.
and when you say coil conditioner.... my eyebrows raise a lil... that stuff is usualyl nothing more than wood chunks..
you want to make sure you get humus, preferably fresh and preferably from you area, the microbes within are superb additions to an outdoor grow
 
GoRealUhGro

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From what iv herd about the hf soil conditioner and from what ppl have told Me about the stuff it rocks. ..I was gonna buy some myself but I just went with the moonshine mix
 
BillyBlanks420

BillyBlanks420

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Yea it seems like it's got a lot of good stuff like aged forest products humic acid ewc oyster shell flour bat quano and a bunch of different microbes... I'm picking up the premium compost for $55 a cubic yard and getting 12 more blocks of coco coir to add to the holes with 1/4 Cup kelp meal, Neem meal, Alfa Alfa meal n Azomite per cu ft hoping that should be enough till flower? Should I add hummus or manure to it? This is only my second year growing last year I filled 100 gallon pots with promix and 10-10-10 it got huge but they either all got ate by animals or destroyed by the environment n I want the benefits of pure organics
 
Growbrough

Growbrough

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BillyBlanks420 said:
Sweet thank you so getting some premium compost from my local soil place would be a good idea to mix with the soil conditioner? Someone told me that might b too hot but I don't see how when the compost is just leaf mold n grass clippings... N would u say I add the kelp and Alfa at 1/4 cup per cu ft?
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Be sure that the compost you're buying is completed the full degradation cycle and is "fully composted" a good way to check is to lift up about 5 bags into the pallet and stick your arm in and check the temp. if is hot its still composting in the bag and not done.

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BillyBlanks420

BillyBlanks420

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So here is the final mix my ladies are in...
2 bags of FF Soil Conditioner (3 cu ft each)
2.5 cu ft of coconut coir
1 cu ft of Mushroom compost
1 lb of Azomite
1 lb of Neem seed meal
2 cups of espoma tomato tone per cu ft.
60 tsp of soil moist water crystals

:) happy plants
 
BillyBlanks420

BillyBlanks420

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DonTesla said:
Nice work, dude!!

And yea, humus all the way, it should be a part of everyone's base I think

It's a key to my success anyway, I'd say

The very first pallets to disappear every summer too, so that's saying something..
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Thanks I'm pretty stoked myself I'll tell you what though it's a pain in the ass gettin water to them! All this hard work carrying soil and water gives u ur summer workout haha I think when I top feed I'm going to add humus and bio alive from the down to earth nutrient line... Anything else organic that would really boost my preflowering growth and flowering yield?
 
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