No Veg/Giant Cola discussion

C.Indica said:

But the feds can still fuck with you whenever they want.
Nice sound to it, does it have it's own thread?

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the grow not that one i started it before i became a member on here i will do one for the next runs. i have 2 vertical grow test going on in my test room and i have 2 more 20 light rooms im starting up this week hopefully and that one 20 light i have going is a nightmare. one of the helpers my partner's friend of family or something fucked with electrical friend all my timers and turned off all the a/c so the plants went through like 3 days of 120 degree plus heat with no feedings lol needless to say killed off half the crop tried my best to save everything lol that room has been a nightmare since building it

Your friend fucked you good.
120+ = Dehydration, No growth, Closed Stomata, Leaf tissue burns, death.
And humid as fuck I'd imagine. Probably molded all your buds.
I would have told the guy he's in charge of replacing every plant that died.
With Grade A clones.

yea ive been tryin to do this to glad sumbody did

i dont have any pictures but i like start flowering then start reveg on the flowering mother for a week then take a clone. then it takes about two weeks tell you start getting a few branchs then start flowering. you get what almost looks like a ball of bud.

This is gonna require a 4x8 flood tray, and you'll need 3 1K HPS lights, but you'll get what you're looking for.

Starting out with clones, veg them under 400w lights for 60 days. During that time, take off all side branches (NOT the fans) This will leave only the main Cola as a bud site. The clones taken now become the next round. I plant my clones in 2 gal grow bags, but any 8" pot will do. You can fit 72 of them on a 4x8 tray. I settled on the 8" pots because I didn't want to water every day or more!!! If you don't mind that, you can fit 128 of them in 6" pots.
Anyway, at the 60 day mark, put them on the 4x8 table under the 3 1K lights and flower them out. If you have a good yielding strain, you oughtta get at least a zip, zip point 5 per. Your Colas will be as large or larger than a loaf of french bread

I wouldn't start out the clones on 12/12 without a good veg time and expect to get these results. I veg my clones for the same time as the girls in flower take. that way, it's a revolving process.

why isnt anyone posting pics?

I use a 600w hps.
vertical lighting. got the trays at vertigrowsystems.com
strain is odyssey.

Bought the odyssey mother plant at a CA dispensary. Some asian place that has a doctor and like massage therapy tables in the same building. They dont take care of their plants worth shit, they had this 4 foot mother along with like 7 other plants just being lit by ambient room light and 2x 24 watt CFLs. So it was super lanky.
ripper 40 clones off of it, let them root, vegged for a week, and flowered.

here are pics in week9.

make sure to trim any branching out on the lower 1/3 of the plant up until week 2 or 3 of floweing.

Jack Harer said:

This is gonna require a 4x8 flood tray, and you'll need 3 1K HPS lights, but you'll get what you're looking for.

Starting out with clones, veg them under 400w lights for 60 days. During that time, take off all side branches (NOT the fans) This will leave only the main Cola as a bud site. The clones taken now become the next round. I plant my clones in 2 gal grow bags, but any 8" pot will do. You can fit 72 of them on a 4x8 tray. I settled on the 8" pots because I didn't want to water every day or more!!! If you don't mind that, you can fit 128 of them in 6" pots.
Anyway, at the 60 day mark, put them on the 4x8 table under the 3 1K lights and flower them out. If you have a good yielding strain, you oughtta get at least a zip, zip point 5 per. Your Colas will be as large or larger than a loaf of french bread

I wouldn't start out the clones on 12/12 without a good veg time and expect to get these results. I veg my clones for the same time as the girls in flower take. that way, it's a revolving process.

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no offense, but if you're vegging for 60 days and only getting 1 or 1.5 oz a plant you're doing something wrong.
With a decent yielding strain, you should be able to accomplish 1oz/plant with 1 -2 weeks veg time

i find 12-12 from seed produces mainly a thick cola with little branching.......

-Age of Mother - 6 months or so. I like to rotate in a new one every once in awhile.
-Rooting Time - 2 weeks
-Veg Time - 1 week
-Flowering Time - 12 weeks
-Size of Rootspace - 2 gal grow bags
-Lights, wattage, distances. - EYE Hortilux, 600w, 18"

I veg my plants for one week to encourage a stronger root structure, which I've found to be the strongest indicator of a given plants yield. I am planning on doubling the number of clones I take to increase overall yield by selecting only those with the strongest roots.

During the second and third week of flower, I remove any branches and growth on the bottom 2 or 3 inches of the plant. Removing the bottom growth is more of a practical matter though. It keeps me from soaking the bottom buds when I flush.

I average about 21g per plant, dried and cured. I figure the strongest plants likely yield around an ounce.

Some clones were gifted to me, I'm not sure of the strain, but it is quite apparent that they don't take well to SOG. They are very branchy and pruning them would likely kill the yield. So definitely not all strains are good for this type of growing.

oh yeah forgot to say i pull 2-4 dry per plant........

jdmcwestevo said:

check the 12/12 from seed thread a lot of guys get huge single buds doing that.

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*was about to say the same, my avg from 12/12 straight seed is 1oz-2.. dependant on genetics.. But its all about the Muffs, sorry single colas ;P

Here are mine. I grew these from seed. Kept them in veg for 3 or 4 weeks and trim about a 5 days before flower I only left the top 3-4 nodes on the plants. Pulled about 2 oz per plant using House and Garden. This was my first run with this stuff, I'm pretty confident I can get 3oz-4oz per plant after I get everything dialed in (more light, better nutrient feeding, co2)

Clown Baby said:

no offense, but if you're vegging for 60 days and only getting 1 or 1.5 oz a plant you're doing something wrong.
With a decent yielding strain, you should be able to accomplish 1oz/plant with 1 -2 weeks veg time

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None taken. I'm still learning too. I veg for 60 days merely for convenience. I take clones off the girls (all the side branches) before they go into the flower room, and I have nothing else to do with them until it's thier turn. My room was a revolving cycle from clones to flower, the nextcrop coming from the girls in veg.
I gotta admit I'm impressed all to hell with the pics of 12/12 from seed. I just had a revolving harvest going on.

Ive done a number of single cola grows and double cola grows *by TOPping once when the plant is about 4 inches tall) There are a number of straions that tend to form only one or two colas and White Widow is one. Many other sativas, too. Any plant that is naturally tall and skinny. Just dont TOP the plant and remove any side shoots that do pop up.

If you google, "single cola marijuana plant", you will find lots of pics.
The advantage is, you can fit more plants in the grow space because no plant takes up much horizontal room. The only disadvantage I can see is, you would want that plant to be pretty tall to get those baseball bat buds, so you need plenty of verticle space.

Ive been wanting to do an experiment with some clones from the same mother and trim one single cola, LST another and weigh the total buds at harvest to see whether the total bud weight would be the same or not. If it turned out that the total weight is the same, I'd single cola forever, LOL. Imagine how much easier and quicker the trim would be!

CW

Jack Harer said:

None taken. I'm still learning too. I veg for 60 days merely for convenience. I take clones off the girls (all the side branches) before they go into the flower room, and I have nothing else to do with them until it's thier turn. My room was a revolving cycle from clones to flower, the nextcrop coming from the girls in veg.
I gotta admit I'm impressed all to hell with the pics of 12/12 from seed. I just had a revolving harvest going on.

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Im totally with ya, there. Ive been doing it the same way--veg clones while one group is flowering. Works fine, but now Im curious to try the 12/12 from seed thing just for the helluvit.

CW

dynamitejack said:

Here are mine. I grew these from seed. Kept them in veg for 3 or 4 weeks and trim about a 5 days before flower I only left the top 3-4 nodes on the plants. Pulled about 2 oz per plant using House and Garden. This was my first run with this stuff, I'm pretty confident I can get 3oz-4oz per plant after I get everything dialed in (more light, better nutrient feeding, co2)

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Beautiful! and a nice easy trim, too.

CW

C.Indica said:

Yea.. But there's also people who do 2 weeks veg, and still get the giant cola.
Just depends on Age of mother, size of clone, veg time, environment.

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I agree.. So many variables! It's just fun to play! It's such a fun plant!!

Overgrow The Government! OTG!

Hey folks, remember that when you cut off branches, it's best to do it when they first form.
This keeps all stress to a minimum as the plant isn't depending on the branch at all for food yet.

Cutting off such fat branches with so many leaves just before flower is what's killing your yield.

del66666 said:

oh yeah forgot to say i pull 2-4 dry per plant........

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That's sick man, you have inspired me to try this myself next grow!

Malus420 said:

That's sick man, you have inspired me to try this myself next grow!

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nice one mate, put some pics up on my thread when you do....