Noob with droopy Snow White in hempy...

Hey all...

First post, first grow, and first real prob so far...!

Before gettin into it, i want to 1st say thanks to all participating on here. Dedicated researching on here can turn anyone from zero to hero in the growing stakes! and it's thanks to the invaluable info you guys provide.

Ok, i've got 4 fem Snow White on the go(yes, i poss shoulda tried a bit of bag seed 1st but the temptation got the better of me!) and my girls are in hempy buckets. They're doin ok i think, but 2 of them have gone a little droopy It starts a couple of hours before the lights go out then they don't really start picking up until it's been back on again for a couple of hours. I'm watering every 2 days, nute, nute, water, nute, nute, water etc and they're drinking it, but i do think i might have been a little weak(scared!) with the nutes until quite recently. They also look a little dark and almost a little crispy around veins and spines of the fans...

Useful info...
Grow tent 80x80x160
400w HPS cool tube - 18" above
GHE 3 part (hardwater micro) currently 12-6-3 gmb
run off ph 6-6.3
18/6
per/verm
9" desk fan, low speed
temp 21-27
rh 50%

and a pretty shitty camera...




Apologies if i've posted this wrong in any way, missed out vital info or my pics don't appear for some reason, ...noob in da house !!

Peace

dont worry. my leaves droop completely at night until all the leaves form like a shell ova the plant and then in the day time there back up again. its fine and nothings wrong

The droop before light out is normal. Nothing to worry about as long as they are watered.


I have had success running lucas formula at full strength in hempy's.

For that you use none of the "Grow" Just Micro and Bloom in a 1:2 ratio I use the same "hardwater" micro because my water is hard and alkaline.

Full strength for 1 gallon of nutes = 8 ml of micro and 16 ml of bloom.

I use this recipe for veg and flower in hempy. It keeps the plants nice and green / healthy.

Keep the PH above 6.0 I have noticed deficiencies if it gets too acidic.


Your seedlings look happy. Ive found that clones grow better in hempy and the seeds ive done have struggled some. Once the seed matures a bit it will grow even better in the hempy.

Thanks for your comment, i was starting to think i'd started an invisible thread lol! (hence +rep dude)

She's picked up a little since, as soon as they wake up today i'll take another look. I'm not so worried now tho thnx!

I might start a journal, think i'll need the support! ...shame i'm so far in already

Thank you for your knowledgeable and experienced response dude! +rep

I've been very tempted to go with lucas formula with the nutes since reading up on it. Only reason i didn't was because i found a great feeding schedule for the 3 part that many growers swear by! And like many others before me, i'd already bought all 3 and thought i may as well use em all

Could i still change to lucas, maybe start when i switch to 12/12? Which i may need to do soon or i may run out of height!! (or is that patience!?)

I've been striving for 5.8 on ph, dunno why other than i must of read it somewhere, something about it being the best level not to lock out elements of your nutes. Thanks for the tip tho, i'll raise it slightly on their next feed.

My only other concern is... on one of my ladies(hopefully!) some of the bottom to middle fan leaves have gone really bright green(almost yellow), only in the fleshy bits of the leaf, the spine and vein areas are quite a thick dark green, could this possibly be due to my water being too acidic as you mentioned maybe...?

I plan to do some more pics later and maybe even start a journal... (is it frowned on if i'm already half way thru my grow?)


Peace and good smoking to all...

The 3 part GH recipe is ok for vegging but for flowering id say its high in nitrogen and low in phosphorous.

The lucas ratio will be good for 12/12 flowering. You can use your grow nutes to give them a boost of nitrogen if the leafs start to yellow in flower. Or you can raise the strength of the lucas formula. Just keep to the ratio of 1micro : 2bloom

IE: 1 gallon of water = 9 micro to 18 bloom



For PH levels ive noticed that hempys like Soil PH levels instead of Hydro requirements. 6.5 is where I see healthy results. And below 6.0 I see spots or other problems show up.


You can expect that you plants will double in height once you put them in flower. My sativa heavy white poison has nearly tripled.


Id say flush them with a full strength dose of PH 6.5 nutes and your deficiencies should fade away.


You can start a journal Is snow white a hybrid ?

Thanks for the input Xare

I've only got roughly 40in of height, and my girls are just short of 11in at the mo! and bushing up nicely, they broke soil 5/20 so i feel i'm getting close to the switch.

I've never tried this strain, but by all accounts it sounds nice, as per the nirvana website where they were from -

"Nirvana's Snow White is one of our top-notch selections from the “white" marijuana seeds family. Her pure Cannabis Indica father gives Snow White a denser stature than close relative White Widow, making this F1 hybrid a big yielder indeed. Its plants bear dense sticky buds covered in trichomes. These marijuana seeds are well suited to cultivation in hydro or similar systems. With its lovely smooth taste and powerful Indica stone, Snow White is one of the nicest Widow variations available."

Thanks 4 your time...

Still drooping but not so bad today, and while those big fans are resting it seems the rest of the plant gets to work growing! All the little satellite branches have forced their way to the surface and seem to be healthy

Here's some pics, this is droopy an hour or so after lights on...



And here's the smallest, toughest gal of 'em all. She's about four days behind the others. Named phoenix after rising from the great drought of May twenty-ten! (no thanks to those feckin small rw cubes!!!)

i wouldnt worry about the drooping but the intervienal chlorosis suggests a defeciency. are you using RO water? Maby it is just your flash but i dont think so. I am not really familliar with the Hempy buckets what is the grow medium?

iscrog4food said:

i wouldnt worry about the drooping but the intervienal chlorosis suggests a defeciency. are you using RO water? Maby it is just your flash but i dont think so. I am not really familliar with the Hempy buckets what is the grow medium?

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Thanks for the edit iscrog lol!

Yeah the pics were taken in a pretty dark room, so it's purely flash light. That said, i'm seeing the interveinal chlorosis even more so with my own eyes in glorious HPS-technicolor!

Using tap water which ph's around 7-7.2, comes down to about 6.6 with hardwater nutes then i ph it down a bit further to about 5.8-6 before feeding.

The medium is perlite/vermiculite, 3/1

I'm leaning towards a mag def at the mo and going to try epsom salts, but further opinions are welcome...

I gotta say my gals do seem to like their buckets, and i'm liking this HB experience so far

Your Hempies are looking real good, bro. I have a pair that I'm running outside right now- both are a mix of coco and perlite. One bucket is heavier on the coco and vice versa. The bucket with more coco is killing the perlite heavy mix. I also don't have the algae build up with the coco. Food for thought.... keep up the good work!