shrigpiece
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Thats a lot of buck for that growroom mate, Wow 3 grand would do marvalous things.
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HydroDawg421
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Most of my time is spent tying plants back, tucking fan leaves and adjusting the plants to allow the most light through to the lower branches. I like to linger a little as well. The only way to notice minor changes is by spending time with the plants. I have learned a lot and have been able to identify suttle changes in the plants and catch things before they get out of control.
Here is a rough breakdown from memory
Magnum XXXL hood - $225
Quantum 1000w dimmable digital ballast - $250
DWC setup, pumps, etc - $300
Fans - $250
CO2 regulator, PPM meter & 2 bottles - $500
Dehumidifier - $200
Misc meters, bulbs, timers, etc. - $500
H&G nutes - $500
And add another $1500 for the secret hidden room I built underneath the house that is only accessible via the crawl space. The crawl space is very small near the door but on the opposite side of the house it's 12' from the bottom of the floor joists to the ground. So I built a nice 10x15 room.
Checkout the pics in my album:
http://s1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb393/HydroDawg/Snapbucket/
HydroDawg421
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GROW BIG OR STAY HOME!!!
This setup will pay for itself after 1 harvest. After that its all good!!!
My total investment is probably $5k or more. But like I said, the ROI on this is IMMEDIATE!!!
I've been spending $400 a month for A++ smoke for YEARS. Count the time, effort and gas for every goose chase I have to go on every 3-4 weeks to find it along with the risk involved. I feel much safer with my secret grow room.
My intentions are to harvest enough that I can dry, cure, vacuum seal and keep underneath the house and supply myself, my GF & brother for the next 3+ years.
Omce I have achieved that I will shut it down, box everything up and maybe sell a lot of it on ebay. Then about once a year thereafter I will harvest a crop or two and repeat the process.
HydroDawg421
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PS. I have had a lot of luck recouping $$ from my hobbies over the years on ebay In fact, I have sold items that I have stated are BROKEN (laptop, ipod, digi cams, etc.) and people will buy broken stuff. Its unbelievable!!!
HydroDawg421
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chasta
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well i am guilty of asking stupid questions . I don't know allot about growing anything .A few of the questions about soil grows lately have been from me . I do have one dwc bucket going as a experiment . I Think as soon as i know enough to get good results with one dwc i will change the other 11 to dwc on the following grow . The reason you have not seen any newb questions from me on the dwc is because it has not had a problem yet . I know my tap water ph is higher then you guys like . I mix each back according to the back of the 3 part bottle of nutes . It almost seems easier for me because it takes the watering of of the equation . Over watering seems to be my biggest issue so it's the soil i am struggle with . Don't get me wrong i know i need alot more equip and meters to do the dwc the right way . Lets compare apples to apples here you need meters to do soil the right way too . I think what your really have issue with is guys asking for help when they have not done any research or bought ALL the equipment they need to do things right . I'll look at this thread again in 10 weeks to see if the dwc live or died and update for everyone . maybe I'll eat my words . I just think That the fack some of us ask questions you may think are stupid has nothing to do with the medium we're in .
zvuv
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I grow soil under a 600W HPS in a 4x3x 7ft high cab. I also have a small veg cab with a 250W MH. Every grow I improve my setup. I would reckon I have $5k invested in this op. Just the nickle and dime stuff like outlets, ducts, fans, lumber, panda cloth etc came to a couple of grand. In addition a fair chunk of that $5k was spent on things I didn't need to begin with or didn't keep after I tried them. I consider it part of the cost of learning. Also this is a fun hobby and I dont mind spending some money on that.
I didn't spend it all at once. Probably spent $2k to get going when I started. My first harvest was over 10 oz which would have cost me over $3k to buy. So it was 'profitable' from the start. Not a lot of businesses are that sweet!
I didn't spend it all at once. Probably spent $2k to get going when I started. My first harvest was over 10 oz which would have cost me over $3k to buy. So it was 'profitable' from the start. Not a lot of businesses are that sweet!
CEEJR
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Waterfarm, Floranova bloom only and a good meter in my opinion is all you need besides the lighting of your choice. Feed the plant according to what the meter tells you. it's not hard to grow a weed. Soil growing in my opinion requires more skill and experienced eyes to have a decent harvest.
Filthy Phil
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You know what...youre right, after reading what you guys have had to say, I think you're right. It does have more to do with the seriousness of approach a person takes than their method. I recant my former statement.
You guys have all made some pretty valid arguments, I will/am realligning my oppinion on the matter.
Also, to the rude people, there was no need, a good explanation (or a few) was all that was needed.
sso
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ive been doing soil 5 years.
never wanted to do hydro, was interested, but,, mjeh, im messy with water
and i rent.
plus, the hydro grows ive tasted, well. im not impressed.
soil is just easy and perfect for a lazy guy like me. and i get perfect tasting buds. (lol, deeper and tastier than whats on the "open market" anyway..)
might not get as much, but i dunno, im fairly comfortable with my yield (meaning, i aint looking to change a thing)
and like i said, im not impressed with the taste of the hydro ive gotten my grubby fingers on lol.
but each to their own.
had a neighbor who did hydro on first run, did pretty good (apart from hermiism)
but i didnt much like even his later grows.
the best he did was pretty fine, but im growing that same strain right now and it tastes alot sweeter.
but hey, each to his own, probably someone that can do hydro real properly, but, usually people go to hydro for yield? yeah?
the thing with cannabis, you have to choose, between yield and quality. (though again, comparatively i think i do allright vs hydro guys,)
never wanted to do hydro, was interested, but,, mjeh, im messy with water
and i rent.plus, the hydro grows ive tasted, well. im not impressed.
soil is just easy and perfect for a lazy guy like me. and i get perfect tasting buds. (lol, deeper and tastier than whats on the "open market" anyway..)
might not get as much, but i dunno, im fairly comfortable with my yield (meaning, i aint looking to change a thing)
and like i said, im not impressed with the taste of the hydro ive gotten my grubby fingers on lol.
but each to their own.
had a neighbor who did hydro on first run, did pretty good (apart from hermiism)
but i didnt much like even his later grows.
the best he did was pretty fine, but im growing that same strain right now and it tastes alot sweeter.
but hey, each to his own, probably someone that can do hydro real properly, but, usually people go to hydro for yield? yeah?
the thing with cannabis, you have to choose, between yield and quality. (though again, comparatively i think i do allright vs hydro guys,)
HydroDawg421
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I agree to some extent. You can spend $3-500 to harvest a very small crop. Or spend $2-3k to "do it right" and harvest a substantial crop. All things being the same . . . If I'm going to dedicate the same amount of time and risk why not make it worthwhile and get the largest yield possible.
Why grow 2 plants under a 2 watt CFL for 6 months when you can grow 8 or 10 under a 1000w for 10-12 weeks? The difference in labor for 2 plants or 8 is negligible. So why not increase the yield and maximize your labor?
HydroDawg421
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Talk to me about a soil grow. I'm going to do an outdoor soil grow (maybe hydro too) in the spring.ive been doing soil 5 years.
never wanted to do hydro, was interested, but,, mjeh, im messy with water
plus, the hydro grows ive tasted, well. im not impressed.
soil is just easy and perfect for a lazy guy like me. and i get perfect tasting buds. (lol, deeper and tastier than whats on the "open market" anyway..)
might not get as much, but i dunno, im fairly comfortable with my yield (meaning, i aint looking to change a thing)
and like i said, im not impressed with the taste of the hydro ive gotten my grubby fingers on lol.
but each to their own.
had a neighbor who did hydro on first run, did pretty good (apart from hermiism)
but i didnt much like even his later grows.
the best he did was pretty fine, but im growing that same strain right now and it tastes alot sweeter.
but hey, each to his own, probably someone that can do hydro real properly, but, usually people go to hydro for yield? yeah?
the thing with cannabis, you have to choose, between yield and quality. (though again, comparatively i think i do allright vs hydro guys,)
How many plants versus how long of a grow (what 4-6 months or more?) versus the yield. What is your average yield per plant and how much time does it take?
zvuv
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Another thing that newbies get hung up about is yield. Yield is important but if you are growing for yourself it's not he most important thing. Sure if you are doing the 2W cfl thing then you want to maximize yield any way you can but growing under a 400W or 600W HID will easily produce more weed than the typical couple needs for themselves.
2 oz per month is a very generious allowance for me & my gf. My closet could turn out 8oz a month if I really worked at it, probably quite a bit more if I went to hydro. I want a fun relaxed time growing MJ. Running a system at 50% capacity has a very comfortable feel to it. There's plenty of room to manouver. There's lots of flexibility if you want to add another plant or grow a long running sativa, grow plants of different heights. The cab does what you want easily instead of busting a nut to make everything work pedal to the metal.
2 oz per month is a very generious allowance for me & my gf. My closet could turn out 8oz a month if I really worked at it, probably quite a bit more if I went to hydro. I want a fun relaxed time growing MJ. Running a system at 50% capacity has a very comfortable feel to it. There's plenty of room to manouver. There's lots of flexibility if you want to add another plant or grow a long running sativa, grow plants of different heights. The cab does what you want easily instead of busting a nut to make everything work pedal to the metal.
newbiegrower420
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Well. This is to the original poster. If you can't take the newbie post's, stay out of the newbies kitchen!!!
sso
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..that is very strain dependant.. one strain might give six ounces vs others 2 ounces, the 2 ounce smoke would be finer though..then there is the time involved and growthtechnique.
im not really interested in quantity either, so couldnt really help you there.
all the info you need is here on the website though
UnbridledCannabis
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i like soil. its just natural. and i find it easy. ive never had a plant not make it to harvest
