Npk question?

So in my other thread I have been told I have a nitrogen and phos def and it's early flowering, but I don't want to repeat nd make 2 threads

So my real question, I'm looking around local stores online....(very hard to find good shit) and I want to correct this problem fast enough... so if I wanted to get a balance fert would this make sense...2-5-3 + 5-1-1=7-6-4......I know that 5-5-5 is the same as 10-10-10 etc...but does that work?

Lol I'm so spent over this grow, by far worst to date...I don't have a lot but never faced any real problems before....must have been dumb luck

you need to be sure that the assessment of deficiency is accurate. you need to be absolutely certain of the problem before trying to fix it. you should provide more details regarding what you're doing now and some clear close up pics in white light if you can.

https://www.rollitup.org/t/leaves-going-to-shit.881120/

polishpollack said:

you need to be sure that the assessment of deficiency is accurate. you need to be absolutely certain of the problem before trying to fix it. you should provide more details regarding what you're doing now and some clear close up pics in white light if you can.

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It's the best my pics are going to get

5-5-5 isn't the same as 10-10-10. they are balanced the same but the 10's have more fert content, a higher percentage. Just from the pics it looks like over fert with the leaf tips dying. I think I would just go with foxfarm's ocean forest soil and try to avoid adding anything else as it has fert in it already. for this plant, maybe just water when dry and see how it does.
The issue with organics like subcool's and whatnot, is they need bacteria a weeks of time without plants to break that fert down to a level that can be absorbed. So, let's see if I have this right. You used a modified version of subcool's fert, you've used 12-0-0 fert, and you've added something else that you've put the pic of in your other thread? it sounds like you over did it on the ferts. One of the unfortunate things about using fert is that they don't really come with instructions too well and then people come here saying that their plants are messed up. The most common thing is that people tend to provide too much fert. If you use a soil that has fert in it, you might not need anything else, at least for a long while. Guessing doesn't work too well. Try to avoid making more than one thread for the same grow as it gets a little confusing.

polishpollack said:

5-5-5 isn't the same as 10-10-10. they are balanced the same but the 10's have more fert content, a higher percentage. Just from the pics it looks like over fert with the leaf tips dying. I think I would just go with foxfarm's ocean forest soil and try to avoid adding anything else as it has fert in it already. for this plant, maybe just water when dry and see how it does.
The issue with organics like subcool's and whatnot, is they need bacteria a weeks of time without plants to break that fert down to a level that can be absorbed. So, let's see if I have this right. You used a modified version of subcool's fert, you've used 12-0-0 fert, and you've added something else that you've put the pic of in your other thread? it sounds like you over did it on the ferts. One of the unfortunate things about using fert is that they don't really come with instructions too well and then people come here saying that their plants are messed up. The most common thing is that people tend to provide too much fert. If you use a soil that has fert in it, you might not need anything else, at least for a long while. Guessing doesn't work too well. Try to avoid making more than one thread for the same grow as it gets a little confusing.

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I hear ya, but that's why op stated why I wasnot going into full detail to make 2 threads...this was solely on npk...and everywhere I have read not just forums that 4-4-4 is 8-8-8 in a sense..?and that's just it tho....no ferts were added, plants were doing extremely fine, a lot of the lower leaves was suffocated by the neem not being emulsified, I know very stupid ....I can add pics later when I get home from work you can see the plant is getting better, such a better green color, even touching the leaves the feel better, all new growth is straight and no clawing.....

I know the lower leaves won't full recover but it's a lot better then before when there was nothing extra added

I'm also not the biggest fan of ffof, I have had a really shitty bag, very inconsistent

Many feel that a RATIO of 3-1-2 or 3 parts N to 1 part P to 2 parts K is perfect for Cannabis....

MANY learned people run this ratio start to finish! That's up to you.....While it's known that the plant will decrease it's use of N in bloom.....and most (ALL) nutrient makers reduce the N in bloom feeds. The actual change to using bloom "type" feeds. Should not be changed until week 3 after the lighting times have been changed.
This is to cover the plants N needs during the "stretch" period at the beginning of bloom.....Sativa's or longer running plants require you to wait a little longer to begin the lower N, higher P&K formulations.
Some of these "bloom" formulations are flat out, too high a P&K and that begins to restrict N uptake. This can lead to minor lockouts and changes in pH that can and do lead to bigger lockout problems. It can be very helpful for your nutrients to make smaller changes in the NPK and then add a P&K booster (in proper amounts) to add the needed (and push a bit) rise in P&K at a more prudent or proper time!

Examples of this in synthetic nutrients would be -
Hesi
Canna and others that supply a later bloom PK boost and your directed to use it in a limited fashion.

I leave out AN here as they have a stupidly high PK booster of like 0-50-30.....This type of boost can work BUT, it is extremely limited in How, when and how much you would employ it! There are plenty of other extreme PK boosters out there too......Best advice is to simply avoid them - until you really know what your doing and can grasp the concept that "more is not better" and to attempt it only once at like week 6 in a true 8 week plant...

So a ratio of 3-1-2 is a very good place to start.....others that work well are 3-2-2 and 2-1-1.......Bloom can be like 2-3-4.
There are people who use 10-10-10 type of stuff and make it work and it can....it is still not the best and the results would be better if not.

Doc