Nutrient chart?

Don't Bogart

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I've searched around the forum and haven't yet found a general nutrient chart.
Probably silly but I'm wondering if anybody has figured out a general measurement, (ppm) of the 17 nutrients needed for healthy growth.
Taking it from the plants perspective. " I've sunk my roots in. The water is fine. The lights' right. Now! This is want I want to eat. X amount of Nitrates, X amount of phosphorous, X amount of potassium, calcium, copper, magnesium, etc., etc.
Different strains may have different tastes. But is there a general rule of thumb to start with?
 

Renfro

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Well I take rooted clones straight to 1000 PPM without issues, max flowering PPM for me is 1200, more than that and I get tip burn.

Also important is how much of each nutrient you have in the mix.

I dunno what nutrients you use but here is a great formula for GH.

Armor Si = 2
CalMag = 5
Micro = 7.33
Grow = 6.67
Bloom = 8.33

That formula will work for a whole cycle, from veg to flower and produce great results. Numbers are mL per gallon. Use with RO water or you should reduce the calmag depending on the PPM of your tap.
 
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Don't Bogart

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Thanks Renfro,
That's a good start.
Also important is how much of each nutrient you have in the mix.
I am looking to dig a little deeper. I do aquaponics so bottle nutes are kinda out of the question. They'll kill the fish.
So at this point I'm looking to individually control each nute. I plan on getting test kits to track each one. I've got the three basics, NPK,
and would like to move on from there. Maybe I'm trying to reinvent the wheel but it's a fun hobby.
 

Renfro

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Well you could have the water analyzed for content.

I don't know how you plan to individually control each nutrient with aquaponics.

Every aquaponic setup I ever saw did great in veg but terrible in flower due to the lack of potassium and phosphorous in proper levels for flowering.

Magnesium should be considered a macro nutrient with cannabis, as well as calcium.

Not sure what can be done to improve aquaponics without killing the fish. The fish make nitrogen but they don't help with potassium and phosphorous.
 

Renfro

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IMO potassium is the most critical nutrient for quality. It's required for terpene production and without ample supply of potassium you simply don't get quality flower.
 

Renfro

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Kelp meal concentrate can help with micronutrients, and potassium sulfate can help with potassium. Not sure how much the fish can handle. Ca, Mg and K should all be maintained in proper ratios as they can lock each other out. Often water with too much calcium or potassium will lockout magnesium
 

Merlin1147

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There are a lot of environmental factors which will influence how much and what kind of fertilizer any given plant wants. I make up my fertilizers based on ratios of N : P : K. More specifically N: P2O5: K2O ratio as that’s the way the labels are written. In veg I aim for 2:1:1.5 and transition to 1:1:1.5-2 in flower.
 

Renfro

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You also may be interested in the elemental PPM's. Thats where the real story is. There is a relevant thread linked in my signature.
 

Don't Bogart

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The big three N-P-K are fairly easy to track. It's just knowing how much is good. Through API aquarium test kits I monitor nitrogen and phosphorous.
A kit from Salifert helps me check potassium. API also offers kits for Magnesium, Calcium and about a dozen more chemicals.
Renfro I saw your post on PPM. I'm still wrapping my head around it. But that's where I'm tracking. As you say the potassium, calcium, magnesium war is tricky so it goes back to knowing how much and, I believe it's not 1 to 1 to 1.
Merlin1147 do you mix those per gallon before adding? Also your ph . Do you track that?
I grabbed this chart and you can see the difference between soil and soiless nutrient use.nutes.jpg
So you can see this is a interesting journey.
One other thing, I use rain water. The fish and tank plants seem to do much better with that.
 
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