Nutrient combo question (I know bad idea)

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Internationaldiet_61

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So I bought a bunch of nutes when I was researching before learning I shouldn’t mix and match companies. I want to make sure I’m not hurting my girls doing what I am doing.


So I’m in week 4 of flower and after a scare with possible nutrient lock out / light damage I want to confirm I’m not hurting my girls

Medium: FF happy frog/ perilite mix top dressed with earthworm castings

Current feed with distilled water: FF big bloom (2 capfulls), FF grow big 4 ml, humboldts secret golden tree 4 ml, GH koolbloom liquid 5 ml, 1 tsp grandmas molasses, 5 ml cal mag plus

Non feed watering addins : 5 ml cal mag plus, 1 tsp grandmas molasses

I am trying to find a way to see if my feeds are overlapping nutrients (learning about nutrient lockouts) and any help advice appreciated

If what I am feeding is okay that would be ideal but I can change it up if that would help
 

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I told you in the other thread you're feeding too much P/K. And that was before you mentioned that you were also using the humboldts secret golden tree 0-0-2.25.

You're soil is all out of whack from improper feeding. Just because the plant starts flowering doesn't mean it wants you dumping a bunch of bloom products on it. You're overuse of certain nutrients are locking out others and also causing issues from too much of those.


Internationaldiet_61 said:
What should I take out?
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I wouldn't use any of that stuff. It's all just overpriced cannabis specific nonsense. That golden tree is nothing but potassium sulfate mixed with water and put in a shiny bottle and marked up 100 times.

I definitely drop the golden shower and the kool bloom.
 
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xtsho said:
I told you in the other thread you're feeding too much P/K. And that was before you mentioned that you were also using the humboldts secret golden tree 0-0-2.25.

You're soil is all out of whack from improper feeding. Just because the plant starts flowering doesn't mean it wants you dumping a bunch of bloom products on it. You're overuse of certain nutrients are locking out others and also causing issues from too much of those.




I wouldn't use any of that stuff. It's all just overpriced cannabis specific nonsense. That golden tree is nothing but potassium sulfate mixed with water and put in a shiny bottle and marked up 100 times.

I definitely drop the golden shower and the kool bloom.
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Thank you, I will be backing off as you suggest.
Will she be getting enough p/k without the koolbloom?

been giving her ph water this week to try and help her.

should I continue this and slowly reintroduce the koolbloom without the golden tree?

she’s due to be watered later this evening or tomorrow morning and due for feeding. Should I skip and just do some cal mag water?
 
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I don't know who told you that you can't mix companies per se. People that grow some very expensive grapes do it. Just pay attention to what you are doing. One zinc sulfate is like another. Just be careful of things like purity, carrying agent, etc. Now if you trust one company that's a horse of a different color.
 
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xtsho

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Internationaldiet_61 said:
They have been in 5 gal for a month or so. Flipped to flower 3/4 weeks ago. They just started budding this week
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So you transplanted them a month ago into 5 gallon pots of Fox Farm soil and started feeding immediately at that time when you flipped to 12/12 it sounds like. If so you've already added plenty more stuff to an already hot soil. The plants will get enough P/K using juse any decent base nutrient. There is no need to use P/K boosters. Feeding your plants properly and keeping them healthy from start to finish is better than blasting them with P/K. I know all the marketing out there touts all the bloom enhancers that come in shiny bottles but they are not needed. Learn about plant physiology, what each nutrient is used for, and then feed accordingly.


Antagonism: High levels of a particular nutrient in the soil can interfere with the availability and uptake of other nutrients. For example, high nitrogen levels can reduce the availability of boron, potash and copper; high phosphate levels can influence the uptake of iron, calcium, potash, copper and zinc; high potash levels can reduce the availability of magnesium. Thus, the application of high levels of nitrogen, phosphorus and potassium can induce plant deficiencies of other essential elements.

 
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xtsho said:
So you transplanted them a month ago into 5 gallon pots of Fox Farm soil and started feeding immediately at that time when you flipped to 12/12 it sounds like. If so you've already added plenty more stuff to an already hot soil. The plants will get enough P/K using juse any decent base nutrient. There is no need to use P/K boosters. Feeding your plants properly and keeping them healthy from start to finish is better than blasting them with P/K. I know all the marketing out there touts all the bloom enhancers that come in shiny bottles but they are not needed. Learn about plant physiology, what each nutrient is used for, and then feed accordingly.


Antagonism: High levels of a particular nutrient in the soil can interfere with the availability and uptake of other nutrients. For example, high nitrogen levels can reduce the availability of boron, potash and copper; high phosphate levels can influence the uptake of iron, calcium, potash, copper and zinc; high potash levels can reduce the availability of magnesium. Thus, the application of high levels of nitrogen, phosphorus and potassium can induce plant deficiencies of other essential elements.

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Great info my friend
 
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I also have tiger bloom (haven’t used it came with the trio). I bought the koolbloom after the rave reviews I was seeing for it. So if I’m understanding correctly, I’m way over feeding on p/ k and need to scale back.

does this sound good?
Feed: ff bloom big, ff grow big 5 ml for next feed with cal mag and molasses (should I cut this out too?) then after a few watering start reintroducing either tiger bloom or the kool bloom? (Leaning towards tiger bloom right now)

no feed water: cal mag + molasses
 
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cherrybobeddie said:
I don't know who told you that you can't mix companies per se. People that grow some very expensive grapes do it. Just pay attention to what you are doing. One zinc sulfate is like another. Just be careful of things like purity, carrying agent, etc. Now if you trust one company that's a horse of a different color.
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how can you identify these across brands? The agents that may cause issues
 
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xtsho

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Internationaldiet_61 said:
how can you identify these across brands? The agents that may cause issues
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You need to first read the labels so you know what's in it and you also have to have an understanding of plant nutrition. You a K heavy with those nutrients and that soil was already loaded with food to begin with.
 
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