NewGrower2011
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So I just got my latest results back from the new mix. I knew going into it this mix may be a little off given the recycling so I was assuming I needed to load up a bit of N as prior test showed that as very low. I was also very low in P. I added a lit bit of neem, alfalfa and some other low N inputs but nothing I would expect as being a 'heavy' load.
Now the surprise this time is that the P level is still very low. The source I used this time was Roots Organic and their Seabird Guano; I used both the powder and pellet form for some quick release & some slow release. So the test shows my P levels as extremely low still! I was afraid of overdoing things so I didn't use more than 1/4 cup of each or so for total of 1/2 cup for each tote full of medium. Each tote is probably around 12 gals of media.
I'm now trying to figure out if the test could be 'off' here. I looked at the Mulders chart & another little cheat-sheet I've found online in the past and I was expecting to see that maybe too high or too low of some macro element was skewing the test result. But what I didn't see was anything that would cause a very low reading for P itself.
Anyone know what could influence the P level to read lower than actual? Before I go putting more P into the mix trying to balance it (yet again) I wanted to rule out anything I'm not thinking of. I think if I cut the medium with something inert to deal with the high N level I can then bring the others up to ideal levels.
That's the 1 thing with organics and soil recycling is you can end up chasing things; Using fresh new mixes based on a proven recipe does have its appeal in that regard. It's wasteful - but it's consistent and repeatable.
I had placed 4 plants into this new mix and 2 were fine then suddenly tanked on me turning wilted and grey basically. The other 2 were planted about a week later but they've survived so far and might be starting to show signs of taking root & starting to recover & grow again. But now that throws my plans off as I had laid out my space based around 4 plants going in and being of same size/starting point (very old clones that had been sitting with established rootballs)
Argh. I l love the SIPs + Organics but the soil mix chasing deal does provide some frustration. Purchased some new bags of NFTG #4 to use in toning it down along with some peat & coco I have on hand. We'll see - wish these soil tests turned around a bit faster.
Now the surprise this time is that the P level is still very low. The source I used this time was Roots Organic and their Seabird Guano; I used both the powder and pellet form for some quick release & some slow release. So the test shows my P levels as extremely low still! I was afraid of overdoing things so I didn't use more than 1/4 cup of each or so for total of 1/2 cup for each tote full of medium. Each tote is probably around 12 gals of media.
I'm now trying to figure out if the test could be 'off' here. I looked at the Mulders chart & another little cheat-sheet I've found online in the past and I was expecting to see that maybe too high or too low of some macro element was skewing the test result. But what I didn't see was anything that would cause a very low reading for P itself.
Anyone know what could influence the P level to read lower than actual? Before I go putting more P into the mix trying to balance it (yet again) I wanted to rule out anything I'm not thinking of. I think if I cut the medium with something inert to deal with the high N level I can then bring the others up to ideal levels.
That's the 1 thing with organics and soil recycling is you can end up chasing things; Using fresh new mixes based on a proven recipe does have its appeal in that regard. It's wasteful - but it's consistent and repeatable.
I had placed 4 plants into this new mix and 2 were fine then suddenly tanked on me turning wilted and grey basically. The other 2 were planted about a week later but they've survived so far and might be starting to show signs of taking root & starting to recover & grow again. But now that throws my plans off as I had laid out my space based around 4 plants going in and being of same size/starting point (very old clones that had been sitting with established rootballs)
Argh. I l love the SIPs + Organics but the soil mix chasing deal does provide some frustration. Purchased some new bags of NFTG #4 to use in toning it down along with some peat & coco I have on hand. We'll see - wish these soil tests turned around a bit faster.