ganjasmokah
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um...any comments?
~official nirvana ak48 grow log with pikz!!~hott
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stanky
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I would hold back on the watering, maybe every other day with a light nute mix every other watering. I it looks as if some of your plants are suffering from nute burn, give just water for a week and im sure things will green up, also you might want to transplant into bigger containers. More roots equals more growth.
Hope everything goes well. " Keep me posted outside"- UM
stanky
Hope everything goes well. " Keep me posted outside"- UM
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ganjasmokah
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thnkz man..as for the tranplanting..im waiting to set my 400 hps,then ima tranplant and flower in 1 gallon grow bags filled with coco coir/perlite...i would love to tranplant right now,but i dont have that much coco coir....and its aslo more efficient using the beer cups to veg...
my biggest problem with this grow is the burning that you see...my guess is that it isnt a nute burn,but a deficiency..maybe cal=mag...coco coir has no nutes at all..so feeding nutes early is reccomended..i misted with seaweed earlier today..and will water with some monkey juice BLOOM...since i dont have the veg formula...the clones that yopu see..ima transplant into soil..since coco coir is giving me ALOT of hassle...then ima turn my favortie clone into the mother plant,and run a perpetual dwc sog grow...
i think my problem is using my crappy ass tap water,and i dont have a good ph pen,just the drop test kit
ive heard tap water thats too hard will cause deficinecies and shit like that....using store bought water is not an option ...
ganjasmokah
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my whole concern is if my tap water ppm is like 300-500...since the ph is around 8.5,and i live in a major,coastal city..then my guess is the ppm is very high...can this cause any lockouts,or other problems?or is it simply SAFE to use in coco coir? like if my ppm is 500,and i add around 600 ppm of nutes....then adjust the ph...can this mix hurt the plants or burn them in any way?
i need some reassurance that tap water,even very hard tap water,is "safe" to use..and wont cause problems with nute deficincies,etc...
i know its obvoisly not the best water to use,but as long as it doesnt cause any lockout,or shit like that,ill use it...
ganjasmokah
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yea,some plants are really doing wost than others..my top 3 plants are growing nice,dark green leaves,with not too many spots,etc..then theres my other plants that are in HORRIBLE conditions...
my first guess is a deficincy,since the leaves are "curling" up,which usually means cal=mag def....
i really dont knwo what to do....i folair fed maxicrop seaweed today,which has alot of trace nutrients and hormones.....
Tricks
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I didnt read the whole thread so correct me if im wrong.
You where talking about your PH earlier, your PH is the most important part of the grow. If you cant control it you basicly causing all the problems the plants are having.
So all the problems you have might stem from the fact your tapwater is bad for growing. You are feeding it all this good stuff and it cant up take any of it cos of the screwed up PH. I would try to change your water source for a bit and see what that does and definitly replace that bad pen or calibrate it..
Good luck with your grow.
ganjasmokah
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thankz man..and yes i think its the fluctuating ph thats causing all these deficincies,etc...i use the gh ph test kit,which is just using some test drops,and macthing the color to the ph...obviosly this is EXTREMELY innacurate..and my ph must be 5.0 one day and 6.5 the other...im getting a ph pen from ebay..this one
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-HANNA-HI99104-99104-PH-METER-TESTER-CHECKER_W0QQitemZ250376911479QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMeters_Testers_Probes?hash=item250376911479&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50
will this ph pen be good enough?also,lets say i start measuring and adjusting the ph properly at 5.8...and still use tap water..will the chances of a deficincy DECREASE?
Tricks
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I guess that pen will work, as for decreasing your probs still using the same water. Possible, all depends what else is in that water. I know that high concentrations of chloride can cause lockout aswell, looks like an MG def. just to name one.
I'm not an expert on tapwater. Maybe someone else is. Ive heard about letting your water sit 24h should help, but i dont know.
ganjasmokah
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yeah,ive been doing alot of reading on how using "hard" tap water with a higher ppm than 200 WILL cause a magnesium def..mainly cus of the calcium locking out the mag....overall,i bet my tap water is whats fuckin up my grow,that along with not managing my ph properly...just guessin...im buying that ph pen soon,and using distilled water...this is my last time using coco coir,in the future ima go with either soil,perlite,or dwc...
what do you use for ph testing?
also,anyone else wanna share some comments????
Hayduke
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Yeah, why have you changed accounts?
And how has your water made an improvement from a few days ago...have you tested ppm?my whole concern is if my tap water ppm is like 300-500...since the ph is around 8.5,and i live in a major,coastal city..then my guess is the ppm is very high...can this cause any lockouts,or other problems?or is it simply SAFE to use in coco coir? like if my ppm is 500,and i add around 600 ppm of nutes....then adjust the ph...can this mix hurt the plants or burn them in any way?
i need some reassurance that tap water,even very hard tap water,is "safe" to use..and wont cause problems with nute deficincies,etc...
i know its obvoisly not the best water to use,but as long as it doesnt cause any lockout,or shit like that,ill use it...
My experience, especially with the tester drops is you need to let all the ions in your nutes mix in order to get a stable pH reading. I bubble mine with an aquarium air pump and stone, but periodic shaking works good also. For some reason the pH pens seem to get a stable reading faster, but depending on what I add it can take an hour or so (check an hour later and it has changed). This happens to me especially when I use BMO's SPT which has live mychrozia and is very active in the bottle. The bacteria eat sugar and excrete what I find to be an alcohol but others have said is methane, either way in solution is acidic. So when I add this tonic which has humic acid anyways and lowers pH, with molasses or sweet, overtime the pH drops. Several other products may be active enough to change in your resevoir over time as well as some minerals precipitating out of solution in the presence of high aeration.
As for the pH pen...I had Hanna's red non waterproof pen which usually sells for about $50 USD and has the same "two point manual calibration" screws, and it reached the limit of its screw in about 6 weeks. It needed daily calibration. Luckily my local hydro shop guarantees these 100% and rather than getting another one (he says the problem is very common) and having the same issue, credited me for an upgrade to the waterproof one which has electronic calibration (no screw to reach limits) It has the same waranty. He recomended the black waterproof one that does TDS and EC also but it is overpriced IMO. I spent another $40 and got a TDS pen just for peace of mind...so I would say the pen you are looking at may be better than drops but may not. Important lesson: you get what you pay for. This goes for the booster fan in your other thread.
Coco is not your problem. But I would say soil first is a good idea. If you want to switch, just use soil when you transplant. Your plants will love it. If you use a hot mix like foxfarm ocean forest (cut with extra perlite) do n ot feed for 3-4 weeks depending on your plants response. Just water with 6.0-6.5 RO water with Cal-mag or another adjustment for Mg (go lite) Also to be safe NEVER, NEVER, NEVER use the recomended amounts of nutes or supplements, 1/2 strength is probably good and you can ease up if needed. Your tds pen will verify this.
Hayduke
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In answer to this I will re-post my comment from your other thread (which I meant to have posted here as I have mentioned the age issue before, but I was trainwreckedYeah, why have you changed accounts?
) Changing identity and having multiple accounts is not a good sign that I am wrong.From the HTG booster fan thread:
BTW...The copyright on your Bio text is 2006. Who keeps High School textbooks after High School...Only those who drop out. The school will not issue a diploma, or mail out transcripts if you change schools (to anybody) until the books are returned and all fines paid. (I work in the Registrar/Counseling office when I have free time)
I am not trying to give you a hard time, but minors on this site jeopardize RIU. Do your folks support your hobby? If not, what happens if they find out, and without money to cool your lights, you do not have money to deal with the smell or the sound, much less pay the bill for electricity, and again they WILL notice the increase.
Unless you graduated last year and took Freshman Biology as a junior (textbooks arrived in spring semester of the 05/06 school year) senior, I am fairly certain you are under age. At my school there are ZERO juniors or seniors out of 2500 students taking this class.
Also as a Biologist, it is somewhat sad that the book appears to never have been opened and has been demoted to the level of a brick to have water spilled on and pages warped
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